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Originally Posted by shakran
dks, to be totally blunt, that's a load of crap. Socialists have lost. Period. Capitalism has won. The corporation is the only thing that matters now. Corporations can get away with just about anything as long as they make money at it. Everyone likes to get down on Enron -their real crime? Not making money. Hiding it is what got them in trouble. Haliburton is so evil as to make Enron look like a fairy tale, but they haven't been stopped or even impeded. Why? Because they make money.
I don't see how you can sit there and say the republicans have done so much better when, since Reagan first got his hand in the country, corporations have been moving more and more toward total domination of society.
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A couple of things you have wrong here. I have NEVER said that the republicans have done much better than anyone else. They may have done less damage, but only slightly. Also, what we have today is not capitalism, unless you wish to redefine capitalism. If people still wish to deny that what we have is fascism, well they can deny all they want, but thats still what we have. The socialists changed so much of the united states until Reagan that they won. The only thing that the republicans have done is alter the new deal to benefit big business, which still isn't capitalism.
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Originally Posted by shakran
Small businesses can't make it because the corporations are too huge. If you want employment and you're not lucky enough to have started a unique business for which there is no competition, you have to work for a corporation where you're expected to give everything you have to the neglect of your personal time, your family, and even your health. Yet that loyalty is not returned - the corporation will cast you adrift in a heartbeat if they think they can be more profitable (even just in the short term) without you.
There are countless stories of executives and middle managers who once had a solidly middle class lifestyle and did their best for their corporate masters - and are now working menial jobs at Home Depot and Walmart just to get by because they were "downsized."
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Trickle down economics would have been a great economy booster, had it been limited to a very short term...much like the new deal. patents and intellectual property laws were abused to the point of isolating a specific industry to benefit just a few. That is the fault of both parties. Blame the new deal for fostering big business to get people working. Blame this new fascism for putting profit on the stock market and hampering small business.
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Originally Posted by shakran
I guarantee you this dks - you can take this to the bank. The current system of capitalism is not sustainable. A revolution is coming - it's just a question of when - and the longer it takes to get here, the worse it's gonna be when it does.
Reagan kicked off the idea that it would be terribly fun to widen the gap between rich and not-rich. Now it's a yawning chasm - that's simply not sustainable. Eventually the poor and middle class will be fed up with watching the country's elite spend more money in a day than they make in a year while they worry about having enough money to buy groceries. Eventually that anger will reach a breaking point. It's happened before (the French revolution comes to mind) and it will happen again, I guarantee it.
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how will this revolution be attained? sticks and stones? what will happen when your property is taken away to increase a tax base? what will you do when your living area will be searched for anything illegal, at will? No revolution will happen if people do not have the means.