Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community - View Single Post

shakran · 01-12-2007, 06:04 AM

dks, to be totally blunt, that's a load of crap. Socialists have lost. Period. Capitalism has won. The corporation is the only thing that matters now. Corporations can get away with just about anything as long as they make money at it. Everyone likes to get down on Enron -their real crime? Not making money. Hiding it is what got them in trouble. Haliburton is so evil as to make Enron look like a fairy tale, but they haven't been stopped or even impeded. Why? Because they make money.

I don't see how you can sit there and say the republicans have done so much better when, since Reagan first got his hand in the country, corporations have been moving more and more toward total domination of society.

Small businesses can't make it because the corporations are too huge. If you want employment and you're not lucky enough to have started a unique business for which there is no competition, you have to work for a corporation where you're expected to give everything you have to the neglect of your personal time, your family, and even your health. Yet that loyalty is not returned - the corporation will cast you adrift in a heartbeat if they think they can be more profitable (even just in the short term) without you.

There are countless stories of executives and middle managers who once had a solidly middle class lifestyle and did their best for their corporate masters - and are now working menial jobs at Home Depot and Walmart just to get by because they were "downsized."

I guarantee you this dks - you can take this to the bank. The current system of capitalism is not sustainable. A revolution is coming - it's just a question of when - and the longer it takes to get here, the worse it's gonna be when it does.

Reagan kicked off the idea that it would be terribly fun to widen the gap between rich and not-rich. Now it's a yawning chasm - that's simply not sustainable. Eventually the poor and middle class will be fed up with watching the country's elite spend more money in a day than they make in a year while they worry about having enough money to buy groceries. Eventually that anger will reach a breaking point. It's happened before (the French revolution comes to mind) and it will happen again, I guarantee it.

01-12-2007, 06:04 AM	#43 (permalink)
shakran Tone.	dks, to be totally blunt, that's a load of crap. Socialists have lost. Period. Capitalism has won. The corporation is the only thing that matters now. Corporations can get away with just about anything as long as they make money at it. Everyone likes to get down on Enron -their real crime? Not making money. Hiding it is what got them in trouble. Haliburton is so evil as to make Enron look like a fairy tale, but they haven't been stopped or even impeded. Why? Because they make money. I don't see how you can sit there and say the republicans have done so much better when, since Reagan first got his hand in the country, corporations have been moving more and more toward total domination of society. Small businesses can't make it because the corporations are too huge. If you want employment and you're not lucky enough to have started a unique business for which there is no competition, you have to work for a corporation where you're expected to give everything you have to the neglect of your personal time, your family, and even your health. Yet that loyalty is not returned - the corporation will cast you adrift in a heartbeat if they think they can be more profitable (even just in the short term) without you. There are countless stories of executives and middle managers who once had a solidly middle class lifestyle and did their best for their corporate masters - and are now working menial jobs at Home Depot and Walmart just to get by because they were "downsized." I guarantee you this dks - you can take this to the bank. The current system of capitalism is not sustainable. A revolution is coming - it's just a question of when - and the longer it takes to get here, the worse it's gonna be when it does. Reagan kicked off the idea that it would be terribly fun to widen the gap between rich and not-rich. Now it's a yawning chasm - that's simply not sustainable. Eventually the poor and middle class will be fed up with watching the country's elite spend more money in a day than they make in a year while they worry about having enough money to buy groceries. Eventually that anger will reach a breaking point. It's happened before (the French revolution comes to mind) and it will happen again, I guarantee it.