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dksuddeth · 01-12-2007, 02:01 AM

It has alot more to do with the whole way the constitution is now 'interpreted', than just the 2nd Amendment, so back off the notion that I'm bitching that I can't have a tank, etc.

In the early 1930's the new deal democrats in congress did more than stretch the limitations of power that the constitution gives them. They convinced the USSC to accept that interstate commerce also includes anything that affects interstate commerce, including intrastate commerce OR any activity that has a 'substantial effect' on interstate commerce. They also imbued themselves with the power of not having to show any cause or correlation that interstate commerce is affected, just make the claim that it is. That is why a once limited federal government is as bloated and cancerous as it is today.....and it's been that way for so long now most people just accept that this is the way that it is.

Look at bill of rights cases in the last 70 years compared to what they were in the 18th and early 19th century cases. The individuals rights are no longer protected, except for freedom of speech. That little puppy gets alot of attention but is catered to because it makes people 'feel' like they have freedom still, but the rest are ALWAYS judged on how much compelling government interest OR how much societal benefit is garnered by infringing on the individual rights. Look at Kelo v. New London....or almost ALL eminent domain cases. Police power is practically unlimited and nearly unaccountable for any infringements of civil rights. The supremacy clause is used dozens of times a year to deny just compensation or redress of grievances to the citizens, who are the ones that the constitution was designed to protect and empower.

No, the socialists and communists have indeed won because nearly all of you resignedly accept that monopolistic practices of a government run amok and are not only unwilling to change it by vote, but do nearly all you can to keep the parasites in power.

As for 'centrists', that just means that they are a whole new group whose sole purpose is to get you to agree that the individuals rights matter less than society as a whole by using 'moderate' as a compromise.

01-12-2007, 02:01 AM	#42 (permalink)
dksuddeth Junkie Location: bedford, tx	It has alot more to do with the whole way the constitution is now 'interpreted', than just the 2nd Amendment, so back off the notion that I'm bitching that I can't have a tank, etc. In the early 1930's the new deal democrats in congress did more than stretch the limitations of power that the constitution gives them. They convinced the USSC to accept that interstate commerce also includes anything that affects interstate commerce, including intrastate commerce OR any activity that has a 'substantial effect' on interstate commerce. They also imbued themselves with the power of not having to show any cause or correlation that interstate commerce is affected, just make the claim that it is. That is why a once limited federal government is as bloated and cancerous as it is today.....and it's been that way for so long now most people just accept that this is the way that it is. Look at bill of rights cases in the last 70 years compared to what they were in the 18th and early 19th century cases. The individuals rights are no longer protected, except for freedom of speech. That little puppy gets alot of attention but is catered to because it makes people 'feel' like they have freedom still, but the rest are ALWAYS judged on how much compelling government interest OR how much societal benefit is garnered by infringing on the individual rights. Look at Kelo v. New London....or almost ALL eminent domain cases. Police power is practically unlimited and nearly unaccountable for any infringements of civil rights. The supremacy clause is used dozens of times a year to deny just compensation or redress of grievances to the citizens, who are the ones that the constitution was designed to protect and empower. No, the socialists and communists have indeed won because nearly all of you resignedly accept that monopolistic practices of a government run amok and are not only unwilling to change it by vote, but do nearly all you can to keep the parasites in power. As for 'centrists', that just means that they are a whole new group whose sole purpose is to get you to agree that the individuals rights matter less than society as a whole by using 'moderate' as a compromise. __________________ "no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything. You cannot conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."