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Old 01-11-2007, 04:03 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by roachboy
i have never understood--and still do not understand--anything about what i think is still best characterized as the busby berkley school of political debate-you know, "come on, kids, let's all pull together as a team and put on a really great musical..."
I've seen you make that reference before and I assumed you were talking about some great kaleidoscopic political distraction, that when one had the curiosity to examine more closely, turned out to be just a bunch of rather cut-rate looking showgirls, errrr, I mean, politicians lying on the floor and moving their arms and legs around.

But seriously, I don't think the opinion that we should pull together to find a workable solution to the quagmire in Iraq necessarily means being cheerleaders for Bush & co. I certainly am not. But I also believe that we have a vested interest in, no, I'm starting to hate that word - interest, we have a responsibility for the future of Iraq that we didn't have before. And it's not going to go away even if we pulled all of our troops out tomorrow. I'm of the opinion that "unilaterally" pulling our troops out of Iraq would be just as damaging to us and to our reputation as our invasion has been. And I'm not at all at ease with the idea of abandoning them to decades of intractable civil war. This shouldn't be an easy bit of mathematics for any liberal. It is not only an American "hot-button" political issue. To treat it like it is also a narcissistic exercise in one-dimensional navel-gazing. Don't get me wrong, I believe there should be debate and, fuck yes, passionate debate! But I also think people should strive to break free from their ideological and political constraints - often and with great courage.
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