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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Years ago I asked a lady I was dating if she would like to go conoeing down a river. She said yes. I told her what to expect and that it would be demanding. She said yes again. We rented a conoe, they drove us up river, and dropped us off, so we could conoe down river back to our car.
I see the Iraqi war the same way. Democrats gave Bush the authority to use force. As soon as he did, they started bitching and complaining. The difference is that the bitching and complaining gives comfort to the enemy making things more difficult. At this point Democrats need to shut the f*** up and help row.
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Well the main difference is that you were honest in your parable about the lady. You told her it would be hard. You told her what to expect. You also told her you'd be canoeing on a river, and that's what you did. You didn't tell her you'd be canoing on a river and then took her rafting on the ocean instead.
Bush told us it would be easy. With SHOCK AND AWE we would roll over Iraq like a steam roller on the Pillsbury doughboy. We would be fighting the "terr-ists." We would be getting rid of the WMD's that we KNEW were there (they're between Baghdad and Tikrit said Rumsfeld).
Then we got there, and despite Bush having declared the mission accomplished, we're still there, getting killed every day, not having found one WMD or one terrorist who didn't come into the country after we destroyed the borders so as to LET them in. In short, while you told your lady friend the truth, Bush lied through his teeth, repeatedly.
And while you and she were canoeing down the river, you weren't secretly directing that all the other boaters be carted off to a hidden pond where they'd be tortured for years on end.
Bush, on the other hand, authorised a CIA "Extraordinary Rendition" program in which they fly suspected terr-ists and innocent people they just feel like questioning off to countries like Egypt, Syria, and Uzbekistan. There, as CIA interrogators look on, workers in those countries torture these people constantly - sometimes to the point of death. They're bent in half so they can't breathe. They're chained to the wall in a room that slowly fills with water until they nearly drown. They're beaten. Razor blades are used to make small one inch cuts all over their bodies, including the penis. They're fed rotten food and given only yellow, disease infested water, and that's only scratching the surface. If you think Abu Ghraib was nasty, that's not even half as bad as what the Syrians can dream up to do to you, and all while the CIA watches, under orders from the top - the president. (source for this entire paragraph, Ghost Plane by journalist Stephen Grey. Good read, but if you're at all human it will piss you off)
Now, if you seriously think I'm going to sit here and help row the boat that ferries innocent victims to the torture chamber, you're out of your mind.