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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
I'm disregarding most of your reply post because it's nothing more than refutations based upon your own rose colored glasses
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Translation: "I can't think of even a semi-lucid argument to refute what you said.
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Private school classes are not as populated as public school classes. Less students means less workload AND it also means that you actually get better education instead of a factory line education system.
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I doubt you'll find any private school teacher who has less workload than a public school teacher. Additionally, putting a blanket quality statement on either system is asinine. There are fabulous public schools, and there are craptastic private schools, and vice versa.
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Yes, I unfortunately am, but I also had the fortune of finding out just how shoddy it is and enabled myself to rise above it by researching and learning a great multitude of subjects on my own.
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No doubt by reading, which you learned how to do in the public school. Americans have the wrong idea of school. School should not be concentrating on just teaching you knowledge. It should be teaching you how to ACQUIRE knowledge. Sounds like your school managed to get that right. The old teach a man to fish philosophy.
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and yet they still can't get it right. whether federal or state, there should be as little input as possible in to the education system. If you are going to have a public education system, make it as local as possible with only a FEW guidelines and standards by a central government. You'll end up with better educated students.
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No you won't. You'll end up with good schools in the wealthy communities and crap schools in the poor communities. Exactly what we have now. Sure there will be the odd exception to the rule, just as there is now, but overall that's what you'll end up with.
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First, I agree that the system is broken....beyond broken. What you're failing to understand is that it's not broken because doctors got together and said 'lets monopolize health care'. It's broken because insurance industries believed that they could make money off of healthy people by making them subsidize for sick people and then screwing the sick people by limiting the amount they would pay for adequate healthcare. That made it expensive
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That analasys isn't half bad. But how are we supposed to correct that unless we stop letting insurance companies pull those shenanigans. We as private citizens certainly don't have the authority to tell them to quit. The government must do so. . . now whether you want to do that by having government take over the insurance/healthcare industry, or just having the government tell the insurance/healthcare industry exactly how much they're allowed to charge, it all amounts to the same thing. Government control of our healthcare. Either way, the insurance companies no longer get to screw the sick. Now if we go to a purely socialized medicine system it'll eliminate the ability of insurance companies to overcharge the government for care because the government will, essentially, be the insurance company.
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...what broke it was getting the states governments to buy in to it and regulate it to the point where a doctor HAS to utilize the health insurance medical doctrine instead of applying his/her own.
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What you suggest the doctor should be able to do is economically unfeasable. A doctor 1) doesn't have time to administer his own private insurance company It's and 2) wouldn't be able to get the numbers to survive.
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not MY way of health care, it's the republican big business way as well as the democrat/liberal socialized way of health care. the only difference between the two is republicans want to keep it at the state level and democrats want to move it to federal. either way, it's still going to remain broken.
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I don't think you understand what socialized medicine really is. A true socialized medicine program would eliminate medical insurance as we know it and revamp access to healthcare so that everyone would have the opportunity to get at the least basic healthcare.
But don't worry, there's still plenty of room for doctors who just want to make money - - I doubt a socialized heatlhcare system would give out breast implants for free, for instance.
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not according to desals relatives, who are residing IN canada.
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I addressed that at the end of my post.
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and yet you want to make it MORE beaurucratic by moving it to a federal level? keep it small, keep it simple, keep it working.
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Keeping it small is anathema to the socialized medicine concept. Socialized medicine means equal healthcare access for all. In order to do that you have to have a blanket supervisory body at the highest level. Obviously we'll have state-by-state run branches of the federal system, but in order to provide equal care to ALL americans it MUST be federalized.
That, btw, is why you're wrong about schools being socialized. They're not, because they're not run equally across the country.
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why? because admitting that everyone would have to pay ruins the illusion that nobody would have to pay any extra? or that only the wealthy would have to pay extra?
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I don't think anyone's trying to create an illusion that no one would have to pay more in taxes. We all would, but we'd all benefit from it. By your logic we should all privately build roads in our communities. If I want to get from my house to your house, I can by-god build the road. This is just a wrongheadded way to look at social programs.
As for the wealthy paying extra, they should. They benefit the most from the American economic system, they should give back the most. Contrary to popular belief, an extra couple thousand on the taxes of a multimillionaire won't exactly quash his lavish lifestyle.
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what we have today is not capitalism. what we have today is a system based on fascism.
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You do not know what fascism means. I defined it for you but you seem to have missed that. Go take your hunger for knowledge and apply it to a book on governmental systems and what they actually are, then come back and we'll debate this part further.
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What we might have tomorrow could be based on socialism which will mean that everyones rights and property are subject to majority whim. Neither of those are capitalism.
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Socializing medicine does not mean anything for the rest of the economy (except that it would improve)