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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
The question was asked 'how will socialized healthcare be paid for', and hasn't been answered yet, but I will give you my opinion on the answer, since you've asked. Education is already socialized and we can see how that's turned out, right? Healthcare will be much the same way and this is why.
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There's no mystery in how socialized healthcare would be paid for.
Tell me how education has turned out and how it's socialized contributes to that situation, otherwise, i can't answer questions by making assumptions about your assumptions.
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With the income for the entire medical field now coming from one single source (government), what's going to happen? costs are going to be fixed. No longer will you be hearing people saying they want the best doctor/surgeon for their wife or child because money is no object. You will see a 3 to 6 month scheduling issue for nearly every non-immediate critical impending death issue. With fixed costs, there is no incentive to be the 'best' doctor, since being the best will not place you in a higher income bracket, thus no incentive. The only ones you will see remaining in the medical field are the ones who are there because they WANT to be there. What will then follow is a serious shortage of doctors, nurses, surgeons, etc. To deal with this, standards will be lessened, medical care will then become substandard. Why should it be any different? Government does not run anything well. This is historical fact.
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I've known a couple of pre-med students and none of them were materialistic people. This makes sense in light of the fact that there are other, perhaps easier, degrees that let you make money like a doctor. Frankly, i'd prefer my doctor wasn't in it for the money because i'm not a doctor; i'm not an expert. Doctors are like auto mechanics for the human body. Would you rather have a mechanic who is only interested in making money, or one who genuinely wants to help people?
Besides, if the quality of healthcare in socialized systems is so bad compared to market systems, how come the u.s. lags behind the rest of the developed world (including many socialized systems) in many indicators like infant mortality rate? Why are cubans, in general, more healthy than americans?
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BUT, universal healthcare WILL affect all medical related markets like equipment manufacturers, suppliers, pharmas, and it will trickle down to educational facilities as well.
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So we won't be able to pay the fair market price of $50 for an aspirin? Dern!!
I don't think doctors compete with each other as much as you think they do. All hospitals, once you're checked in, are essentially mini-monopolies; that's how they can get away with charging such ridiculous prices.
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Without the incentive to be financially successful, you will retard the entire field and all related markets with it. Again, one need only to look at the public education system to see the results that socialism will bring about.
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I don't know what your qualms are with the public education system(it certainly isn't perfect), but i have a hard time understanding how you think socialism is to blame.