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Old 01-01-2007, 01:11 PM   #81 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567
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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
I give kudos for Host, Mr Ravel and you as well Dilbert and a few others. Thank you for stating your replies the way you did and thank you as well for not taking mine personally.
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Originally Posted by Lady Sage
If Hitler had lived there may very well be no Jews left on the planet. I suppose that would have been alright in some people’s eyes. I am not a violent person. Some people, however, do deserve to die. This is not to say that I, myself, would kill them.
Well no, if we go back, instead of Hitler killing himself, and instead, locking him up in jail, we would still have Jews, he instigated the movement, and was responsible for many deaths, as is Saddam, but killing him would not stop future murders, nor would it stop those of the past. Imagine all the things we could have learned if he was still alive, maybe we could have found more concentration camps sooner, saving lives, maybe he would become like Stanley Tookie Williams III, one of the founders of the Crips, Tookie was convicted of several cold blooded murders, and was placed in jail on death row, he eventually fixed his ways, he became an outspoken opponent of violence and started writing children’s books, he has been nominated for 5 Nobel peace prizes. Hitler could have also reformed, or been an outspoken proponent of violence, we don’t know. However, if he was in jail, for the rest of his life, he could no longer hurt anyone ever again.

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I did not like Saddam, nor did I love him. I do not feel pain at his death. It didnt make me lose any sleep. I do not and will not mourn him. I can not even prove that the person who was hung WAS in fact Saddam. I do however feel better knowing that if in fact the person who was dispatched was him, he can no longer harm any more people.

Now, let us bring our men and women home. It is my hope that his death signals the beginning of the end of our involvement in Iraq.
The sad thing is this is not about saddam, the insurgents are not fighting us because of saddam; they are fighting us because we are in their country.

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Originally Posted by Ch'i
I'm not trying to win an argument. Lady Sage is someone I hold in contempt for her rash point of view. I do not repect it, will always despise it and fight it to my last breath. Ignorance, in her case, emphasized the exact meaning of her sentiment. I cannot stand people who would justify such a depraved retrospect.
And if you don’t respect her point of view, how do you intend to change it. Change comes through debate, or through force. Since you are apposed to force, debate is the only other way. If you are not willing to have a civil discussion where can we go from here, things will not change if we don’t try to change them. Lady Sage joined my group hug, come on Ch’I.
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