toxic515

grey,
First of all, there are a number of implications and definitions to the word seduce. It can simply mean to "win over, attract or entice". That doesn't sound so evil, does it? (of course it can also mean to lead one away from duties and or to corrupt, but who's counting?)

I think we often malign the word manipulate by lumping it into a category that is arbitrarily "bad", and in the long run, seduction is a form of manipulation. As is any argument, debate, and most discussion. We constantly manipulate one another, and it isn't bad, it's a method of making our points or getting our message across. It's how we convince each other of a point, whether the point is that you really want to have sex with me, or that there is or is not a God, or perhaps that a PC is better than a Mac (or vice versa, please no insane flame wars or thread jacking, just using this to make a point... or manipulate your thought process) And so we return to seduce, or seduction. Seduction is not normally coersion, which has a radically different meaning or implication, and I'd agree that coersion is evil. I'm going to assume at this point that you probably mean to use the definition of "entice to have sex". I have a hard time with that being "bad" as well. Seduction can be part of forplay, it can also be part of the courting process or "mating ritual" for lack of a more handy term in my mind. Perhaps the definition you use is " to lead astray from accepted principals, to corrupt" Again, I'm not convinced that even this is always "bad". I'm not at all in line with the idea that societies mores are somehow correct because a majority accept them. Not so many years ago the entire world accepted that slavery was just fine and dandy.. part of the natural cycle. (not just in the US) Today we've all pretty well figured out that it's an abomination. That being said, seduction is likely to be what the seducer and seducee make of it. One must be convinced to be seduced, so unless it involves fraud, it's as much the responsibility of the seducee to make an objective decision about the actions involved as it is the seducer's.

I hope that's all less confusing to you than it's become to my tired mind.....

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