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Old 12-19-2006, 11:56 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by aceventura3
So if Bush says there are holes in the theory of evolution or emphasizes that it is "just a theory", and scientists get their panties in a bunch, perhaps they should count to ten, relax and simply say scientific theory has a place in public schools, teaching religious faith does not.
Ummm....they've been saying that for years, Ace. Problem is, it's not relaxing to see education reform which begins to include untruths.

From John Rennie's "15 answers to creationist nonsense:"
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Creationists retort that a closed-minded scientific community rejects their evidence. Yet according to the editors of Nature, Science and other leading journals, few antievolution manuscripts are even submitted. Some antievolution authors have published papers in serious journals. Those papers, however, rarely attack evolution directly or advance creationist arguments; at best, they identify certain evolutionary problems as unsolved and difficult (which no one disputes). In short, creationists are not giving the scientific world good reason to take them seriously.
The scientific community has dismissed creationism as a valid teaching tool. Their "panties are in a bunch" because they don't want lies in the education system. Here's one of many other statements along those lines:

National Science Teachers Association Disappointed About Intelligent Design Comments Made by President Bush
Aug 3 2005
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August 3, 2005, Arlington, VA - The National Science Teachers Association (NSTA), the world's largest organization of science educators, is stunned and disappointed that President Bush is endorsing the teaching of intelligent design - effectively opening the door for nonscientific ideas to be taught in the nation's K-12 science classrooms.

"We stand with the nation's leading scientific organizations and scientists, including Dr. John Marburger, the president's top science advisor, in stating that intelligent design is not science. Intelligent design has no place in the science classroom," said Gerry Wheeler, NSTA Executive Director.

Monday, Knight Ridder news service reported that the President favors the teaching of intelligent design so "so people can understand what the debate is about."

"It is simply not fair to present pseudoscience to students in the science classroom," said NSTA President Mike Padilla. "Nonscientific viewpoints have little value in increasing students' knowledge of the natural world."

NSTA strongly supports the premise that evolution is a major unifying concept in science and should be included in the K-12 education frameworks and curricula. This position is consistent with that of the National Academies, the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and many other scientific and educational organizations.

The Arlington, VA-based National Science Teachers Association is the largest professional organization in the world promoting excellence and innovation in science teaching and learning for all. NSTA's current membership includes more than 55,000 science teachers, science supervisors, administrators, scientists, business and industry representatives, and others involved in science education.
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