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pan6467 · 12-19-2006, 10:56 AM

In the end it all boils down to opinion. You can post the longest of essays and people will get out of it only what they desire to. People can opinionate facts and warp them into whatever they want, and 9/10 times make rationalizations that they hold onto. By attacking these rationalizations, you are attacking them, thus they go into a mode in which they refuse to take in new information and hold more firmly onto what they believe.

You cannot shove your beliefs (no matter how much "proof" you have) down other people's throats and expect them to disavow their beliefs. You can present facts, give your opinion and let them decide. If the person feels they have freedom of choice and feel they are not pressured into believing one way or another, than they may change their beliefs. However, again, if you push your belief onto them.... they will consider it an attack, hold onto their beliefs and attack yours.

That is the big problem here and in most places when it comes to Politics. You have 2 camps demanding that their beliefs are the only truth out there, when in actuality.... the only "truth" is what a person wants it to be.

We are trying to make the world black and white, when in reality, there are more shades of gray areas than there are black and white areas combined. Thus we find no compromise, thus we find "you're either with us or against us", theus we have "you are either for this or you are not a true patriot". Sadly, this attitude comes from leadership and filters its way down on both sides.

The biggest problem here, in TFP Politics, is the same as the biggest problem confronting our nation..... we refuse to let our beliefs grow and change, and we refuse to listen to others and we refuse to work together to find better ways to working out the problems.

12-19-2006, 10:56 AM	#47 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	In the end it all boils down to opinion. You can post the longest of essays and people will get out of it only what they desire to. People can opinionate facts and warp them into whatever they want, and 9/10 times make rationalizations that they hold onto. By attacking these rationalizations, you are attacking them, thus they go into a mode in which they refuse to take in new information and hold more firmly onto what they believe. You cannot shove your beliefs (no matter how much "proof" you have) down other people's throats and expect them to disavow their beliefs. You can present facts, give your opinion and let them decide. If the person feels they have freedom of choice and feel they are not pressured into believing one way or another, than they may change their beliefs. However, again, if you push your belief onto them.... they will consider it an attack, hold onto their beliefs and attack yours. That is the big problem here and in most places when it comes to Politics. You have 2 camps demanding that their beliefs are the only truth out there, when in actuality.... the only "truth" is what a person wants it to be. We are trying to make the world black and white, when in reality, there are more shades of gray areas than there are black and white areas combined. Thus we find no compromise, thus we find "you're either with us or against us", theus we have "you are either for this or you are not a true patriot". Sadly, this attitude comes from leadership and filters its way down on both sides. The biggest problem here, in TFP Politics, is the same as the biggest problem confronting our nation..... we refuse to let our beliefs grow and change, and we refuse to listen to others and we refuse to work together to find better ways to working out the problems. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?" Last edited by pan6467; 12-19-2006 at 11:00 AM..