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Old 12-12-2006, 12:27 PM   #7 (permalink)
aceventura3
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Would an American president who really understood the possible (or likely) outcome of our invasion have acted so precipitously?
There have been many Presidents who have lead this country into war when they knew the costs would be high and many would die. There have also been times when things took a turn for the worse but we perservered.

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Frankly, it worries me more that we have a Vice President who said as recently as two months ago..., “If you look at the general overall situation, they’re (Iraqis) doing remarkably well.”
According to most media reports things in Iraq were better two month ago than they are today. However, I would rather suffer through the fight for freedom than live in oppression. The Iraqi people in the fight for freedom hopefully share Chaney's positive outlook, regardless how it looks from the outside.

I have a lot of respect for Winston Churchill because of his unwavering optimism and his ability to motivate and encourage people when things appeared to be at there worst. Cheney is not Churchill, but I appreciate Chaney providing postive feedback and encouragement to the Iraqi people fighting for freedom.

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Or a President who suggests (on Oct 25) that...."Absolutely, we're winning. Al Qaeda is on the run."
Al Qaeda is "on the run", the organization is weaker today than it was before the war. Your statement suggests that the fight against Al Qaeda and the war in Iraq are the same, is that what you think? There is no doubt that the war in Iraq has taken a turn for the worse, but I don't know anyone saying that happened because of Al Qaeda.

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As long as Bush continues to define the quagmire in Iraq in terms of al Queda and the war on terrorism, he will never fully come to terms with the situation on the ground in Iraq and change the overalll strategy and tactics to something that really addresses the myriad of geopolitical problems our actions have created in Iraq and the broader Middle East.
Bush has the Baker/Hamilton report on the table.
Bush accepted the resignation of Rumsfeld.
Bush nominated Gates who was approved 95-2 (or close to that), with the support of Democrats.
Bush accepted the resignation of Bolton.
Bush is seeking input from Iraqi leaders.

To say he is not willing to change course seems to be inaccurate in my view.
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