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Originally Posted by aceventura3
Instead of celebration, when are "we" going to start looking at the bigger picture? If you simply take this as an embarassment to Bush - I think that is short-sighted.
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I see no question of merit above. The question listed is of the nature "senator, when did you stop beating your wife"?
It doesn't ask a question, but rather implies that people who disagree with you are not looking at the big picture. If it asks anything, it asks for people to agree with you that anyone disagreeing with you is wrong.
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At what point do "we" take it personal when the UN is used as a forum by other leaders to insult "us" and "our" President?
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Lack of detail in the question. As far as I can tell, the only way to answer this question is to provide an exaustive list of situations in which the you should be insulted personally, and when you shouldn't give a flying fuck.
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Like a spoiled child who gets what he/she wants by crying, how is Bolton's resignation going to make it easier to fix the problems in the UN? Any time in the future, when we send someone in with a strong opinion on a subject - the crying will start in the UN until they get what they want.
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This question presumes that Bolton's nomination and appointment was not a serious error in the first place. If, on the other hand, Bolton's appointment was a stupid move for anyone interested in diplomacy beyond "I have a big stick", then pulling it was a good idea.
The fact that the stupid move was done (bypassing senate approval) and then withdrawn when Bush failed to have the support for the move was an arrogant and (as it turned out) stupid move on Bush's part.
Using recess appointments to push forward contrivercial appointees is a stupid and dangerous move on the president's part. It violates the spirit of the articles under which the USA is built, and it can result in the President having to back down.
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How is Bolton's resignation going to make it better for the next person?
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The next person may not be as foolish and stupid a choice?
People who think Bolton should be withdrawn, for the most part, think the original appointment was stupid. He less resigned and more
was not fully appointed -- he never got the consent of the Senate required by his position.
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I agree enjoy this while you can, but realize "we" have taken a step in the wrong direction, no matter how you personally feel about Bolton.
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Why yes. Bush took a step in the wrong direction by not seeking the advice and consent of the Senate into account, and instead repeatedly relying on out-of-session appointment. This made his appointments
provisional, not final. Appointing someone to the UN who has been quoted as saying the UN should be dismantled
should not be done without the advice and consent of the Senate, because the Senate is well within it's rights to view such an appointment as temporary, and the end-run as an abuse of Presidential power.
It would be equally stupid for the Senate or Congress to make major policy decisions that the President has veto power over without consulting the President. Ie -- Congress declairing war with another nation without asking the President to agree to go along with it first.
Sheer idiocy and bad governance.