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Old 12-02-2006, 01:54 AM   #24 (permalink)
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What if young girls who get this vaccine decide that they are immune to cervical cancer, therefore, they don't need Pap smears when they become sexually active?
Huh? Education is the key, instead of saying 'SEX IS BAD!' educate that pap smears are still necessary, and that it does not make you immune to cancer. The only people that are going to think they are immune are the people who are not educated about sex, and the vaccine.

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Wow - I've seen it all now. So often on this forum I've seen so many posts that say, in effect, "if you're not ready to deal with the consequenses of sex, then don't have it", and this by a varied lot of posters, mostly on the Sexuality thread. So if adults are being counseled not to have sex if they're not ready, why are you saying that kids should be free to do so if they wish? They're kids, for God's sake. They don't know their own hearts, minds or bodies, so what makes them ready to go for it? Why shouldn't they be encouraged to abstain from sex and be guided by their parents in this way?
I’d rather have more, educated kids having sex, then less, uneducated kids having sex any day. They should be encouraged not to have sex, but if they do, to be safe, if the kids are scared so that they wont get protection, we have unprotected kids having sex. But yes, most (if not all) teens are not ready for sex; however, if they still chose too, I’d rather they do it with protection, then with out, instead of saying its abstinence or nothing, it should be abstinence or a condom.

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You seem to be saying that kids cannot be taught to reign in their desires, that they're only going to be driven by instincts, so hey, just give them condoms and tell them to be safe. How sad that we think so little of them to think they can't rise above and exercise a little SELF CONTROL. That's what sets us apart from animals, isn't it? Animals are driven by instinct to mate, but humans have self control....

As far as abstinence, I happen to agree with Planned Parenthood on this: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/bir...abstinence.htm
So do I:
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Originally Posted by http://www.plannedparenthood.org/birth-control-pregnancy/birth-control/continuous-abstinence.htm
Possible Problems

* People may find it difficult to abstain for long periods of time.
* Women and men often end their abstinence without being prepared to protect themselves against pregnancy or infection.
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Originally Posted by Intense1
Yep, education is the key, but when you're educating kids, don't leave out the fact that they can choose to not have sex if they wish, and that it would be absolutely fail-safe in guarding against disease and pregnancy.

Yes, abstinence is failsafe in practice, if it's not just belief. Just like a belief that condoms will keep you safe as long as you remember to put them on or as long as they don't break.
Abstinence is NOT 100% safe. Rape still happens, and the vaccine protects rape victims from HPV, abstinence does not.
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