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Originally Posted by MuadDib
What if you consider the orders you receive from the POTUS to be contrary to the Constitution? Basically what should a soldier do when he feels he cannot both obey the legitimate orders he received and defend the consitution from those orders which he, personally, considers to act as a domestic enemy to the Constitution
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"I, MuadDib, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that
I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign... "and domestic"; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Then that soldier has that right.
However...that soldier had better make damn good and sure that he can make a convincing argument before a military courtmartial.
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
So, NCB and BOR, you're saying that, having joined the military, I relinquish any rights I might ever had about objecting to any particular policy or initiative I might be used to further? That when I join up, I'm signing a blank check to be cashed however the administration and my superiors see fit?
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Mmmmmm...to a very large degree...yes. Bear in mind that you're not just hiring on with U.S. Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines Inc. You are signing on for a different way of life. Bush is not some CEO, he is the
Commander In Chief. In the "real" world, if you have a problem with your boss, you can tell him to suck your dick, walk out the door, and look for work across the street. Do that in the military, and you will be spending some time in Correctional Custody (jail). While you may disagree with a "particular policy or initiative", you are still duty and honor (not to mention legally) bound to follow the orders of your superior officers.
Look...I know that it's hard for a lifetime civilian to understand. It's hard to explain. But when I first got out of the Air Force, after eight years, to reenter civilian life, I had a
huge culture clash when one of my subordinates flat told me that because he didn't feel like it, he just wasn't coming into work that day. That was most definately something that I was not accustomed to, and had to adjust to real fast.
Are we coming to a time when soldiers are issued uniforms, boots, weapons, flak vests, helmets...and a full time personal attorney to take with him into combat?