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Old 11-29-2006, 05:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Intense1
Sorry, but this issue is a family decision one.
Don't get up in arms- no one is forcing your child to get it, stay calm.

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First, the vaccine is against HPV only, not against cervical cancer in its entirity. A woman can contract cervical cancer without ever having the HPV, and shame on the AMA for pushing this vaccine as an innoculation against cervical cancer. Large percentages of women have had cervical cancer without ever having experienced HPV.
That's true, you can get cervical cancer without HPV, but I've never seen anywhere that the AMA has "pushed" this vaccine to prevent cervical cancer- just that it innoculates against HPV, which often DOES lead to cervical cancer.

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Just because HPV often leads to cervical cancer does not make it the sole cause of cervical cancer.
I don't know of a single case where someone has insisted otherwise. However, your take on the vaccine is rather like not using an umbrella when it rains, because rain is not the only way one can get wet- and therefore umbrellas must be useless.

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Second, it is absolutely true and proven - the only way to guard against HPV is abstinence. Sorry, don't care for anyone's "kids will be kids" type arguments, but all other methods of BC and prevention might eventually fail.

Except abstinence. That won't fail, I'll guarantee you. If you don't do it, you won't get it. Any of it. (diseases, pregnancy)
That's great- but you're a parent, and the rest of us live in reality. Sorry, but I don't care for your "kids will obey every command I give them, including not to have sex" argument. A lot of kids, no matter how you raise them, are going to have sex. When more parents realize that, better decisions will be made to safeguard kids. Yours is the same argument against teaching kids about condoms, because doing so will apparently make them promiscuous. Nonsense. Proper education (along with good parenting) has always, and will always, be the #1 method of prevention of pregnancy and spread of disease- not telling them "oh just don't do it". I live in reality, and I have to help solve problems in reality, not in a fantasy land where teens don't have sex just because you ask them not to.

I say to everyone who makes such an argument: Welcome to reality, 2006... People have been having premarital sex for quite a while now, and you're not going to put an end to it. You're just not. Teaching abstinence only does not work. Period. It's been tried for decades, and it has NEVER stuck. Many of them are going to have sex whether you like it or not, and you need to be the responsible parent and teach them how to protect themselves. Telling them that protecting themselves is through "just not doing it" will not work, and that is not "teaching" them anything. Knowledge is power. Give them that power.

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Values are taught in families - that's where you'll see the most abstinence arguments. So when you think to castigate parents for not being on board for their young girls being forced to receive this vaccine, realise that perhaps these parents want to make this decision themselves.
Again, I have no idea where you're getting this "forced" idea. Saying they suggest something happens at a certain age is not a mandate, it's a suggestion. Hence the word "suggest".

Also, values are not universal. Many people who live here in reality take the time to educate their children on safe sex, and the consequences of unsafe sex. While it is true that there are some things you can get even while being safe, proper education is the start.

Teaching abstinence only is setting yourself up for failure. They need to be taught of the consequences of their actions, how to protect themselves. These days, here in reality, preaching abstinence only is an archaic gesture. I would also mention that preaching abstinence only has lead to a trend of teens engaging in anal sex, in order to preserve virginity, because it "doesn't count". That's what you get when you substitute EDUCATION for your own misguided desires to tell them to simply not do it.

Education, people. Education.
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