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Deltona Couple · 11-29-2006, 04:46 AM

Again Host, you are making an ASSUMPTION that we are defending those who carry out unlawful orders. THIS IS A TOTAL FABRICATION. I am all for prosecuting war criminals. But you cannot go around and blindly call all orders given while in our current situation as illegal. Example: Assuming our current purpose of being in Iraq is illegal, a soldier is given the order to take his troops and patrol the base entrance, to not allow ANYONE on base that does not have a military ID, and to prevent any action taken against their orders. If someone attempts to enter base without first providing ID, and the above mentioned soldier gives the order to use deadly force, he DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE THE ORDER GIVEN. If he were to refuse the order, and allow that person entry onto base, he is in violation of orders, and should be tried as such. In the same sense, I am NOT saying that he would be lawful to use deadly force on that person as well as say the 4 people sitting in the car behind them.

The law is NOT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION AT THAT TIME. It is finite and is not to be questioned. You cannot CHOOSE to take action above what is ordered, nor are you to CHOOSE to take a lesser action because you feel that it would be MORALLY wrong to follow the orders. BUT AT NO POINT DO I EVER CONDONE TAKING ACTION ABOVE THE LAW! And I tell you, don't EVER think that I support someone doing that. You are using too wide of a brush to paint the picture here. I love how all these annalists sitting comfortably in their chair can "armchair quarter back" what is going on over there, and soooo many people can just sit there and agree with them. Are you over there? do you see with your OWN TWO EYES what is going on? Then stop accusing our military men and women of "blindly" following orders. They are in it, they live it day in and day out! Just because you feel like many others that we are not justified to be there, doesn't mean you have the right to sit back and accuse every troop over there of committing war crimes. I have ran out of time to go on, I'll add more later.

11-29-2006, 04:46 AM	#19 (permalink)
Deltona Couple Addict Location: Spring, Texas	Again Host, you are making an ASSUMPTION that we are defending those who carry out unlawful orders. THIS IS A TOTAL FABRICATION. I am all for prosecuting war criminals. But you cannot go around and blindly call all orders given while in our current situation as illegal. Example: Assuming our current purpose of being in Iraq is illegal, a soldier is given the order to take his troops and patrol the base entrance, to not allow ANYONE on base that does not have a military ID, and to prevent any action taken against their orders. If someone attempts to enter base without first providing ID, and the above mentioned soldier gives the order to use deadly force, he DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE THE ORDER GIVEN. If he were to refuse the order, and allow that person entry onto base, he is in violation of orders, and should be tried as such. In the same sense, I am NOT saying that he would be lawful to use deadly force on that person as well as say the 4 people sitting in the car behind them. The law is NOT OPEN FOR INTERPRETATION AT THAT TIME. It is finite and is not to be questioned. You cannot CHOOSE to take action above what is ordered, nor are you to CHOOSE to take a lesser action because you feel that it would be MORALLY wrong to follow the orders. BUT AT NO POINT DO I EVER CONDONE TAKING ACTION ABOVE THE LAW! And I tell you, don't EVER think that I support someone doing that. You are using too wide of a brush to paint the picture here. I love how all these annalists sitting comfortably in their chair can "armchair quarter back" what is going on over there, and soooo many people can just sit there and agree with them. Are you over there? do you see with your OWN TWO EYES what is going on? Then stop accusing our military men and women of "blindly" following orders. They are in it, they live it day in and day out! Just because you feel like many others that we are not justified to be there, doesn't mean you have the right to sit back and accuse every troop over there of committing war crimes. I have ran out of time to go on, I'll add more later. __________________ "It is not that I have failed, but that I have found 10,000 ways that it DOESN'T work!" --Thomas Edison