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Old 11-26-2006, 08:40 PM   #18 (permalink)
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OMG! The civil war in Iraq has nothing to do with sectarian violence. It is violence against the invading US military. Some of that does spill over into violence against the security forces, as they appear to be puppets of the US, but almost all of it is to remove US troops from Iraq. I expect no one to disband, but I do expect that after we leave the government will have the brain cells to start concentrating on national pride and rebuilding Iraq for the good of Iraq instead of vengence or some other bullshit. Civilians aren't targets.
The civil war in Iraq has nothing to do with sectarian violence??? Civilians arent targets???

Thousands of civilian bodies are overwhelming the morgue in Baghdad every week and thousands more civilians are fleeing their homes to Kuwait and Jordan to save their families from militia death squads on both sides of the Shia-Sunni battle for power. The Iraq Minister of Health recently estimated that there have been over 130,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, most as a result of sectarian violence and 2 million others who have fled the country as the sectarian violence (and lack of basic services) has spread over the last year since the election of the "unity" government.

Our invasion and continued presence created it and sustains it, but the violence goes well beyond attacks on US forces or those perceived to be aligned with the US.

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Is it morally unacceptable to invade a country. It's morally unacceptable to rebuild it and put that country into massive debt. It's morally unacceptable to use our military to make violence grow in the country so that no one notices that perminant military bases are being built near oil pipes and oil fields. It's morally unacceptable to damn US soldiers, Iraqi security forces, and even insurgents to death because our government places no value on human life.
I agree it is morally unacceptable to invade a sovereign country that did not present an imminent threat to our national security. But we did and to abandon it to civil war, anarchy, and an infrastructure destroyed by out actions is equally immoral. We have an obligation to use whatever NON-MILITARY means we can along with a commitment to a NON-PERMANENT presence.
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I'm not interested in asking what could still be called relatively radical Middle Eastern governments to step in to help what might not have to be a radical Middle Eastern government. I'd rather simply allow them to make their own way.
Unless we want the violence and insurgency to spread beyond Iraq, the involvement of the relatively less radical Middle East governments is critical to buffer the influence of Iran in both Iraq and the region as a whole. I point you to the comments by Jordon's King Hussein today.
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