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Old 11-25-2006, 05:59 PM   #40 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by analog
I'm going to use plain language a moment, because this is the only way to convey my feelings on the "drug war rant" site link you posted, cataloging "drug war victims". It's fucking absurd, and I feel like you're calling us morons for even posting that nonsense.
And you're blaming ME for you having that feeling?

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Originally Posted by analog
I stopped reading that totally one-sided trash site when I got about 15 people in and THEY LISTED A SUICIDE. A SUICIDE. A woman killed HERSELF because she didn't want to go to jail for growing her own marijuana to control her back pain- and that site counts it among the "victims". They also listed a man who choked to death on his own vomit because he experienced great pain not alleviated by his normal, self-medicating marijuana regimine. Those TWO were within the first 20 people listed. VICTIMS OF WHAT? Not anyone or anything but themselves.
So those two instances alone invalidates the others? Does one single misstep or mistake completely invalidate the premise or opinion of a research topic? If so, then every single one of us, including you, are full of shit and we should be completely disregarded in everything we ever say.

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Originally Posted by analog
If they will do that, I have absolutely no reason to believe a single goddamn word of that drivel. It's also very apparent by the wording on a lot of them that it's an emotionally-driven retelling, and very one-sided in its approach to "telling" the story.
do you disregard all of the statements given by government officials as well, since they are also slanted with emotionally driven retelling?

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Originally Posted by analog
Are you SERIOUSLY going to argue about the 92 year old woman who emptied her 6-shot revolver on THREE police officers?

Not only did she empty her revolver at them, 5 of her 6 shots HIT the officers, including a head shot that thankfully only caught the side of his face, and one in the center of his VEST.

On what grounds do you call into question whether or not returning fire was justified? What reason could you possibly have for this patently insane line of thinking? From exactly what alternate reality are you getting the notion that returning fire on a person who has just shot at you and two other officers is wrong? Your prejudice is as grossly obvious as your desire to blindly defend it. This is an unbelievable disrespect of the highest degree, to the point of being offensive.
First off, I'm not questioning the idea that the police shouldn't be allowed to fire back in their own defense. What I AM pissed off about is that this woman is dead, and the only reason for it is that the police who barged in to her home MOST LIKELY terrified her to the point of her shooting at what she thought were home invaders bent on robbing of killing her. We'll NEVER know what she was truly thinking, because SHE IS DEAD!!!! And she didn't have to be if the police weren't so gung ho on armed drug raids. You are stipulating that everybody should do whatever they are told to do when armed men break down the door and yell police, simply because we should assume that criminals would NEVER yell police, is that right? Well, newsflash for you. It happens alot, fake police home invasions. People die because of it. By YOU advocating the use of armed raids by police and villifying civilians who would shoot at them out of fear, YOU place everyone in the position of having to make split second decisions of are these police or criminals. That may be a comfortable position for you right now, but if YOU are ever put in that same position, I hope you make the right decision.
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