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analog · 11-22-2006, 02:07 AM

Wow. This whole thread has been a clusterfuck of misguided, angry finger-pointing.

Examiner- trash. Agitator- trash. After looking at the articles on both, as well as looking at their sites and other articles, I can say those things for certain, and add that if their "publications" were printed on toilet paper, I wouldn't even use them to wipe my ass.

First of all, as has been said, the SWAT and police don't proceed with raids without the approval of a judge. Draw your attention where it belongs, instead of the usual and pathetic practice of automatically jumping all over the police. Go after the judge. The judge is the person who authorizes raids, based on the evidence given them by the police. So quit with the railing against the police for the "reason" of it all.

Secondly, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are- a police officer is going to shoot you if you are pointing a gun at them, especially in a high-risk situation like this. For any person saying she "feared for her life", I will readily and reasonably return the favor that the officer felt the same way, and is compelled to protect the lives of the other officers by following correct procedure.

Ballistics gear or not, they're putting their lives on the line, and it's ridiculous to say that protective gear changes anything when a weapon is pointed at them.

Apart from the first part, the "why they were there"- which is to be directed at the judge, not the cops serving the raid- the second bit was unavoidable. It doesn't matter who you are to the community, or personally, or your intentions... if you are holding a gun pointed at an officer, you will be shot. Simple. The danger of their job does not allow for second-guessing or "waiting" to see what the person's intentions are. That's an unavoidable fact.

And if you have a problem with that, then take it up with the government as a change to police procedure, not with the individual cops following completely standard police protocol. Any change to that policy will only result in one thing: more dead cops.

11-22-2006, 02:07 AM	#21 (permalink)
analog Banned	Wow. This whole thread has been a clusterfuck of misguided, angry finger-pointing. Examiner- trash. Agitator- trash. After looking at the articles on both, as well as looking at their sites and other articles, I can say those things for certain, and add that if their "publications" were printed on toilet paper, I wouldn't even use them to wipe my ass. First of all, as has been said, the SWAT and police don't proceed with raids without the approval of a judge. Draw your attention where it belongs, instead of the usual and pathetic practice of automatically jumping all over the police. Go after the judge. The judge is the person who authorizes raids, based on the evidence given them by the police. So quit with the railing against the police for the "reason" of it all. Secondly, it doesn't matter what the circumstances are- a police officer is going to shoot you if you are pointing a gun at them, especially in a high-risk situation like this. For any person saying she "feared for her life", I will readily and reasonably return the favor that the officer felt the same way, and is compelled to protect the lives of the other officers by following correct procedure. Ballistics gear or not, they're putting their lives on the line, and it's ridiculous to say that protective gear changes anything when a weapon is pointed at them. Apart from the first part, the "why they were there"- which is to be directed at the judge, not the cops serving the raid- the second bit was unavoidable. It doesn't matter who you are to the community, or personally, or your intentions... if you are holding a gun pointed at an officer, you will be shot. Simple. The danger of their job does not allow for second-guessing or "waiting" to see what the person's intentions are. That's an unavoidable fact. And if you have a problem with that, then take it up with the government as a change to police procedure, not with the individual cops following completely standard police protocol. Any change to that policy will only result in one thing: more dead cops.