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Old 11-22-2006, 12:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
my entire belief on issues like this resides with the idea that ONLY in the most extreme set of circumstances should an armed raid ever take place and CERTAINLY not when 'trace' amounts of marijuana have been found...in the trash.....after an anonymous tip was given to the police. This woman was killed because she was scared for her life. Many other civilians have had the same thing happen because our local SWAT teams are all too ready to raid houses for the slightest of reasons.


and why would you think this is?
1. All warrants are reviewed and approved by a judge. How come I haven't seen any anger toward the judge that issued the warrant, but a ton of anger toward SWAT teams that are "all too ready to raid houses for the slightest of reasons." The reason that warrants have to be issued by a judge is so that we have a review of the facts by a third party to ensure that "overzealous" police aren't just raiding houses for the slightest of reasons.

2. I can't tell you why Bill would think this, but I can tell you why I think this. I get judged, daily, by the uniform that I wear. It's funny how when you generalize about a person's sex, it's called sexism. Against the color of their skin? Racism. It's taboo to generalize about a person based on their heritage, or religion, or what have you. But it's perfectly acceptable for people to say "the police do this" or "the police do that", and generalize about the entire population of police based on the actions of a few. Say "Fuck the (insert religion), you'll be branded as a bigot, but make a song that says "Fuck the police.", and it will sell millions. I see no difference between those two statements, yet one is acceptable while the other is not.
As a white officer, I get called racist every single time I arrest someone that is not white. And when I do arrest someone that is white, they tell me that the only reason that I arrested them is because I'm trying to hide the fact that I'm a racist... When mothers see me walking down the street, they'll grab their child and say "You better behave, or I'll get him to take you away..." Great lesson for the youth, isn't it.

Trust me... the police get little love, and lots of criticism.

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Originally Posted by Xera
When a suspect has a gun and is facing the police with that gun thats pretty much the only time I actually think the police have a right to shoot their firearm.
What if a person has a gun pointed at you, and I arrive on scene?

What if they have a knife, and they are within less than 21 feet?

What if the officer is by himself, and there's multiple attackers, and one has a baseball bat?

What if the officer arrives to a fight call and sees someone holding a cinder block over the head of someone laying on the ground?

What if the officer gets to a domestic situation and he's greeted at the door by a man with a knife to his wife's throat?

How about a hijacker, on a school bus, who's threatening to start killing the children on the bus? Should a sniper be allowed to take a shot?

I wish my job was as black and white as other people see it.

Last edited by fhqwhgads; 11-22-2006 at 12:16 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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