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Old 11-19-2006, 10:20 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567, in reference to the cockpunch
People like you are the reason they tasered him.
I was referring to what happened after they repeatedly tasered him, and still sat there saying "stand up. stand up." taser. "stand up, stand up". taser. that doesn't exactly inspire the desire to cooperate - and were it I, I do believe I would be a little perturbed. Mildly pieved. In such situations, one does always make rational, coherent responses to things like being tasered. I fear, I might have acted in a physical manner in self defense, as I would have been in the process of being tasered.

Notably different than the approach appropriate from both sides before the situation got out of hand. Ergo, I'm not advocating or sympathizing with random cockpunch distribution as a response to interactions with law enforcement. I've dealt with tons of cops in my days, and have yet to pull out a solitary bagsmash, or any other physical issue. But then again, I've never been surrounded by five of them tasering the shit out of me. So I can kind of see how someone in that situation might have such a response. I mean I know it sounds crazy, but I think its plausible...you know, just maybe. And all this kid did is go limp!!!. No cockpunches. Just went limp!!! Crap, that's an extra two taserings for being a pussy.

Yes, once again - how could they possibly have handled this without the taser? See, I sort of expect college kids to be jackasses. Cops are supposed to be above such behavior...or don't be a damn cop. Its justifications like yours that make people think all cops are powerhungry labotomized assholes, and that's just not the case. Shitheads like this ruin the rep of good cops that do make intelligent choices when handling these types of situations. These guys felt threatened by the crowd, so obviously keep tasering the shit out of this kid...that'll calm them down. And then a bunch of people throw up their hands and say "Well shit, what else could possibly be done? The kid could have had a dirty bomb in his back pocket? He might have had a gremlin and a glass of water...it was almost midnight afterall? How do you know he wasn't the spawn of fucking Satan?" The fact is, he had shown no actual "violence" as far as I can see, only a failure to comply as fast as the cops would have liked. Inappropriate response to the situation.

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Originally Posted by jorgelito
Piggy, the person was uncooperative and refused to comply with an officers orders. I wonder if he would have behaved the same way at an airport.
I realize that he refused to cooperate, at least after they got on him as he was leaving (at least by many of the accounts of this thing). I don't know if he would have behaved like that in an airport, but he wasn't in an airport. I realize I'm being a smartass in a lot of responses, and I know you generally try to play it nice with everyone - so take my tone as a bit of personal style - but I stand behind my points. What I can't understand is that people are condoning the use of a taser device to compell cooperation from a college student who was in the library (or elsewhere on campus) without his ID. Yes, he might have been a rapist. Yes, he might have had a knife. Yes, he might have been Damien. But there was a pretty good chance he was a student working on a term paper in the library. So instead of a benefit of the doubt, the police get to taser his ass because it doesn't leave marks like a baton or a leather strap would, and he could have been almost anyone or anything!!!!.

To me, that just doesn't make sense.
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