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Old 11-19-2006, 06:40 AM   #58 (permalink)
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Yes, being tasered is "no biggie." I mean, that's why they use it to temporarily incapacitate non-compliant suspects, or to put them back in line (on the low-dose prong setting). Its like a cool wiff of Aqua Blue Velva, without all the annoying green color. I'm thinking of getting one for the home, for those times when I just don't have time for coffee. I don't know why all these people are acting like the cops "did something." They clearly did nothing, constituted of tasing the everloving shit out of this kid about five times. What other recourse could there have been? Hmmmm...I don't know. They could have let him leave, and simply remained to escort him. That would have been tough. Usually when a kid is dicking around in a situation like this (assuming that's what was happening) its because they want attention. They're busy rebelling against society in pretty useless fashions. This is a lot of what college is about. Challenge what you've been taught. Challenge authority. So this kind of attitude is frequently encouraged or tolerated at many schools, but that's a little bit non-sequitur. In any case, if this kid was lolly-gagging on the way out, the worst thing the cops could do is what they did. They just justified all the crap the kid did. They gave him what he wanted, to the tune of a few hundred thousand dollars before its all said and done...minimum.

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Originally Posted by Dilbert quoting UCSB
Originally Posted by http://www.saonet.ucla.edu/campus_regs/
3. All persons on University property are required, for reasonable cause, to identify themselves to, and comply with instructions of, authorized University officials acting in the performance of their duties. Authorized Representatives of a Registered Campus Organization may request identification of persons in the Organization's business meetings.
Library Rules:
Originally Posted by http://www.saonet.ucla.edu/campus_regs/
The Library will refuse access to its facilities, resources, or services to anyone who disrupts the use of the facilities by others or is disrespectful to other library users or employees. People who are unwilling to abide by these regulations will be asked to leave, and those refusing to do so will be subject to removal by security personnel and may not be allowed further access to the libraries.
Note that 1. the rules say you have to identify yourself, not that you have to carry identification. Same for the rules that Cyn pointed out. That can be interpretted as you have to actually answer the authorities if they ask you "who are you, what are you doing here?" It doesn't mean you have to have a UCSB barcode imprinted on your pecker at all times on campus.

To me, its not clear that this kid was actually doing anything "wrong," other than perhaps not going fast enough. I don't know that that's actually a requirement, incidentally. In the worst case that everything said about this no-good low-down non-compliant sumbitch is true, the way the cops handled this only made it worse.

jorgelito: if you're worried about the kid getting a bruised elbow from being escorted out, tasering him 5 times in front of a large crowd full of camera phones isn't really a "smart" thing to do.

Anyone have a link to the rules on campus that failure to comply with school rules and/or the directions of campus authorities in a timely manner results in tasering, with additional helpings if non-compliance continues? I bet this kid, nor his parents, were made aware of such a policy. The notion that somehow this treatment follows in sort of logical fashion from the "but he broke some rules" statement is unjustifiable to me.

Once again, this could have turned out very badly for a couple of campus policeman, who apparently don't have much training in conflict resolution and diplomacy.
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