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Old 11-15-2006, 04:47 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MrVisitor
If you follow atheism to its logical conclusion you arrive at the realisation that there is nothing 'above' humanity. The human is the ultimate being in the universe, free to decide how to live their lives.

If there is no 'higher power' or being to have a guiding moral impact, then whatever each person decides is true.

If I decide to kill you, and I believe that to be morally correct, what moral grounds do you have to say I'm wrong to do so? Law in most countries is derived from religion. Western countries law is based on Christian values (although unfortunately we're moving further from that) and Muslim countries often apply Sharia law.

True atheists do not believe in morals, because they do not believe there is a source of moral guidance or right. They believe that man should decide what is right and wrong, or society. But what if society (for instance Nazi Germany or Communist Russia) decide that persecuting certain minorities was ok? Who do we look to then for moral guidance?

Atheism is man's way of trying to make himself God.

Also, in response to someone's previous statement that Christians 'can' believe the bible is flawed, then read 2 Timothy 3:16. "ALL scripture is God-breathed" etc, look it up.

The Bible is easily misinterpreted by the atheist, or someone who wants to discredit Christianity. Even by someone who doesn't see the big picture of the Bible. The Pope makes mistakes. The Bible doesn't.
No. Atheists (or believers or anybody really) do not live in a vacuum, they live in a society too. Society has its moral rules. Which is why atheists do not go on merrily killing others.

Also, you cannot prove that the bible is not flawed because the bible says it is not flawed. It's just not a valid logical statement.
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