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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
you continue to support this notion of a state army and keeping the redneck idiots from running around with guns, yet I've seen zero historical evidence from you to support this ludicrous theory. You can't say 'but they didn't really mean for everyone to have guns' without producing anything to support it and expect anyone to believe it.
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You keep supporting the idea that the 2nd lets anyone and everyone have a gun, yet I've seen zero logic from you as to why they would bother qualifying that with the well-regulated militia clause.
I, however, have pointed out that clause, which is what supports the idea that "they didn't really mean for everyone to have guns."
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a group of nearly 100 held off two government branches with armored vehicles for over 50 days.
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Because the government sat around doing nothing for 48 of those days. Don't delude yourself.
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Do you know why the FBI pushed for a final assault? They knew that it wouldn't be long before other armed groups of citizens came to help the davidians.
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Bull. That is absolute bunk that you're making up as you go along. I challenge you to give me a reliable, trustworthy source that claims that. They raided when they did because Director Sessions was an idiot who was already in trouble for taking taxpayer funded personal trips all over the country, and was trying to show that he was tough so he could keep his job. Many of the field agents (Sessions didn't bother consulting the guys on the ground who knew what was going on) actually were in favor of pulling back a bit to de-escalate the situation and try to calm Koresh down.
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I see you support the notion of it's preferable to live subservient to the government than to die free.
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I support the notion that it is better to live in a peaceful, democratic society than it is to hole myself up in a bunker cleaning the guns in my arsenal pretending the post-apocalyptic totalitarianism is here and coming to get me.
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Until you can change your perception of americans being idiots, nothing anyone says will ever change your stance. You CANNOT prevent idiocy in some people but such is the price of freedom. Apparently the price is too high for you.
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You're damn right it is. Unless the government is actually oppressing you, you don't need to run around claiming you and your gun is the only thing standing between us and government oppression. But random shootings can and should not be excused by claiming it's all part of the price of freedom.
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pure obfuscation on your part. don't let your machine gun be stolen. pretty simple.
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Pure blindness on your part. Guns get stolen every day. Pretty simple.
So you think something that's unorganized is in fact regulated? Someone get this kid a dictionary.
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And yet, that is exactly what the framers thought and believed.
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No, they did not. They were not that stupid.
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But you're obviously a much more intelligent and wiser individual than those bumbling fools that created this republic, since those who believe in the individual rights theory are unreasonable and illogical, despite all the evidence they put forth. What is it like being such a genius?
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Ahh, more insults that add nothing to the argument. Keep it up sport.
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wrong. cops are 'law enforcement', not the militia, but another dead horse with you.
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Well according to you nothing can be a militia unless it's individuals running around without any regulation or training in the use of their weapons. Not much of a militia.
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I wonder if you are really as smart as you think you are, since you apparently have very little understanding of the historical evolution and development of the constitution.
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Pushing for another ban, are we?
What you mean to say is that I disagree with you and am therefore stupid. Just because my historical view of the constitution is not the same as yours does not mean that you are not the one who has no clue what he's talking about.