sorry shak, your reasoning, interpretation, and conclusions are wrong and illogical.
It should be interesting to you that it wasn't until 1905 that the first court determined specifically that the 2nd Amendment was a collective right, I guess that those first 125 years of our countries existence consisted of moronic judges who probably couldn't even name the signers of the declaration OR the constitution.
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If the civilians attack the government, it is crazy to think the government will not respond with the tools available to them.
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Which is the exact reason WHY the people should have all arms available to them, but that's something that the socialists/communists/statists can't have because it interferes with their agenda.
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What? The ATF and the Marines are two seperate entities. . . .
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yes, they are. But just like YOU said that the government would use all of it's tools available, so they will shift military hardware (tanks) over to law enforcement agencies. They did it at waco.
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A rifle cannot beat a bomber.
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to order such an attack would be COMPLETE political suicide. It will never happen.
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Hell all you need is one nutcase to start something like that.
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He'd be dead pretty quick, wouldn't he. One nutcase gone from the gene pool. I would think that would make you MORE comfortable with less nuts having guns, after a time.
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Next question: How many LEGALLY bought guns have been stolen and THEN used in crimes?
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irrelevant because we're discussing machine guns.
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No, we're not well regulated. I don't have a commanding officer, and neither do you. We are, in fact, completely UNregulated.
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regulated does NOT mean having a government run structure. YOU are a member of the unorganized militia, therefore YOU are part of the militia. IF you were to be called in to service, try to say you're NOT well regulated and see if that gets you out of it. It won't. Because you don't have a CO, you are part of the UNORGANIZED militia.
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I know that. I'll settle for ANY regulation. Hint: When you're in a regulated organization, you generally attend at least one informational meeting in your lifetime. Funny, i don't recall going to any meetings of the militia.
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Do you have a good explanation WHY you aren't 'regulating' yoruself? It is YOUR responsibility to be well regulated...meaning you can shoot, maintain, and keep your weapon and follow basic orders.
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Woah! I had no idea all the governors were breaking the law with the national guard!
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Before 1903, they weren't. It was a ready reserve, meaning that they were NOT a standing army. The Dick Act federalized them, essentially making them available upon notice, turning them in to a standing army, hence they were no longer a state militia.
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So I CAN buy a nuclear weapon now. Excellent.
Your logic is breaking down bigtime
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Strawman argument and you couldn't afford a nuke anyway, much less bear one. There is that political suicide thing also.
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It can be both at once. And it is.
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If it can now be called in to federal service, bypassing the governers authorization, they are no longer a state militia.
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This is an illogical conclusion.
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Only because you still choose to ignore the founding fathers intent of the 2nd Amendment. That is ok though, I understand not wanting to be wrong so badly that you'll not concede despite all historical evidence to the contrary.
which was contradicted in numerous higher court cases afterwards. no legal precedent.