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Old 11-10-2006, 01:21 PM   #16 (permalink)
shakran
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
ONLY because of current prohibition laws.
Uh, no, because ammo is expensive.

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And this is where we let a cowardly group of people screw us. Posse Comitatus is SUPPOSED to ensure that the military would NEVER be used against the citizenry,
If the civilians attack the government, it is crazy to think the government will not respond with the tools available to them.

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but now all the gov has to do is make a claim of drugs being involved and BOOM, instant armored vehicles abound.
What? The ATF and the Marines are two seperate entities. . . .

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I won't bother going over the people vs. military issue again since that would be beating the dead horse.
And you don't have any logical arguments on that subject either. You can't. A rifle cannot beat a bomber.


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How many of those 'idiots' would walk out in public and start firing, KNOWING that everybody else has a machine gun and WILL be firing back?
Hell all you need is one nutcase to start something like that.

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I don't think a whole lot will, in fact, do you know how many LEGALLY owned machine guns have been used in a crime? ONE, and that one was owned by a police officer.
Next question: How many LEGALLY bought guns have been stolen and THEN used in crimes?


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Again, ALL of us are the well regulated militia,
No, we're not well regulated. I don't have a commanding officer, and neither do you. We are, in fact, completely UNregulated.

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or at least we should be had the democrats not infringed on our rights to keep and bear arms.
It was unregulated before the democrats were democrats.

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Well regulated does NOT mean government regulated.
I know that. I'll settle for ANY regulation. Hint: When you're in a regulated organization, you generally attend at least one informational meeting in your lifetime. Funny, i don't recall going to any meetings of the militia.

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It also does not mean that you HAVE to be in the militia to keep and bear arms, since the militia act qualifies members of organized and unorganized militia as american citizens.
The constitution supercedes any other act you can come up with. Unconstitutional laws are null and void.



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We are all the militia. one district court ruled that the militia was the national guard.
Legal precedent.

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This is incorrect
Not according to the law it isn't.

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insofar as it is only one part of the militia, the organized militia.
Organized = regulated. Non-regulated militias do not fall under the 2nd.

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Also, since the constitution prevents states from maintaining a standing army,
Woah! I had no idea all the governors were breaking the law with the national guard!

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the PEOPLE naturally make up the security of a free STATE by keeping and bearing arms equal to that of the standing federal army.
So I CAN buy a nuclear weapon now. Excellent.

Your logic is breaking down bigtime



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especially since the national guard, being federalized, is no longer a state militia,
It can be both at once. And it is.

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therefore, the people make up the actual militia and hence the individual right shall not be infringed.
This is an illogical conclusion.
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