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Originally Posted by analog
Yeah, this is pretty much what I was trying to say.
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Of course it was. 
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Originally Posted by BadNick
I do know a couple of "absolute radical pacifists", as I describe them, who say they would not use violence no matter what was at stake but that is an unacceptable concept to me.
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Ditto. While rare, sometimes violence is actually the right answer. 
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