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Originally Posted by FoolThemAll
It is if the employee agrees to it.
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No, actually, it's not. That's why we have OSHA. OSHA regs do not have a clause saying "unless the employee is cool with it."
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Apologies, but this position seems just as odd to me. Would you support the right of the owners to fire anyone who complains about harmful conditions?
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well most states are what's known as "at-will" employment which means the employee can quit or be terminated for any reason or no reason at all. However, there are also whistleblower laws which protect workers who call attention to the violations of their employers.
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The right you're suggesting exists, in the absence of the right to a job, is both nonsensical and useless. Unless, of course, people have the right to a job once they have the job, is that it?
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You might wanna read up on your law there. The Occupational Safety and Health Act of 1970 P.L 91-596 "assures safe and healthful working conditions for working men and women throughout the Nation."
It gives workers the right to notify their employer or OSHA about workplace hazards.
It gives them the right to request an OSHA inspection of their workplace
It gives them the right to protection from employer discrimination if they exercise their other rights.
It gives them the right to see OSHA citations issued to their employer.
And it requires the employer to correct violations found by OSHA.
If you don't believe me, go to work. There should be a poster in the breakroom (or somewhere public) outlining these rights. If there's not, that too is an OSHA violation.
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Well, I agree that the general public should be ensured easy, safe exit from the building. And really, fire precautions make sense as a whole, because fires can lead to external costs. Give me an external cost and I'll back legally mandated prevention.
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Cool! what about the public health drain from people who have gotten sick from inhaling cigarette smoke? Hell if we take your promise to its logical conclusion you'll be supporting a ban on cigarettes pretty soon.
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They're not allowed to protect the citizens from voluntary choices. Being deceived is not a voluntary choice.
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Of course they are. You've heard of the "war on drugs?"
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Will me eating jizz pizza - hypothetically, you understand - hurt you in any way if I do it next to you in a tiny room?
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Well the point about masturbating into the pasta was that it creates a general heatlh concern - -i.e. maybe YOU will hypothetically eat it and enjoy it, but YOU are not the only one eating it.
If you really want to eat it, and you're bringing your own (so it doesn't contaminate my regular pasta) I really don't care. That's your choice.
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Not everyone. Just everyone who assented to the harm by stepping foot on property that allows smoking. See, it doesn't sound so crazy when you state it in an honest way.
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Again, we get to the workplace safety issue. Workers cannot choose whether or not to be exposed to that cigarette smoke. You might have a case if the employer made gas masks available to his employees so they don't have to breathe that crap in, but we both know that would be silly even if it did happen.