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Originally Posted by DaElf
If you know that those things are going on and you go in there whos fault is that? You know if a bar has a non smoking policy or not. Most of those other things you mentioned are done behind the scenes where the consumer can not see nor make an educated decision to use the service/establishment.
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We're forgetting a basic concept of our system of government here. Less than 25% of the American public are smokers (source, CDC survey 2003). That means the majority of us are not.
What makes you guys think that 25% of the people get to decide for the other 75%? More than 3/4s of us do not smoke, and therefore presumably would prefer you not smoke in buildings we are in. In short, you're in the minority.
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The establishment owner is not pumping smoke into the air. He simply allows his customers to smoke if they want to.
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That's incredibly weak.
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They are not trying to hurt you like you try to make it seem.
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And businesses who dump noxious chemicals into the river aren't trying to hurt the environment either. They're just trying to get rid of waste without paying for it. What's your point? Whether you're trying to or not, you are.
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No one is running around with a cigarette blowing smoke in your face saying "I hope you get cancer".
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No, they're saying "I really don't give a crap if you get cancer"
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YOU go there YOU get the cancer maybe. You see there was no "they" in that sentence where YOU get cancer. Which is what you anti smokers are worried about isn't it? The YOU factor.
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Yes. The vast majority of us are antismokers and WE (that's plural too, quit acting like it's only one of us) are tired of YOU harming us because you have an unfortunate habit.
Hell I think we're being pretty nice about it. We're saying smoke outside, not inside. We're not trying to ban your drug (like most other addictive, harmful drugs are already). We're just telling you to take your drug away from us.