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Originally Posted by pan6467
They refuse to see that they are taking away rights, they refuse to even debate civilly, they want it all.
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You cannot take away a right that never existed in the first place. You do not have the right to harm me in any way. That is the right you claim we are trying to take away.
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So when the smoking is a dead issue and these power hungry hate filled people decide they need to control something else.... they know exactly how to get the rights taken away.
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You're reading a bit much into this don't you think? It's not about hate, it's about not wanting to inhale the detrius of YOUR bad habit.
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Oh yeah and by the way Shakran I guess you must have missed the part where I stated it is getting to the point I have to smoke in my car.
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Nope, I didn't. I applaud it getting to that point. . .
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Yeah, except then I have my son, so he has to walk to the car with me, and if he stands outside by himself while I smoke, I get into trouble
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Well I honestly don't have a problem with you standing next to your car while you smoke either. I don't LIKE smelling cigarettes outside, but it's fleeting and not concentrated so I'm not gonna get my feathers ruffled about it. It's when you take it INSIDE a PUBLIC AREA that I object.
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, if I put him in the car while I smoke it's child endangering...... so exactly where am I to smoke?
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Frankly, preferably nowhere. Smoking is stupid, and you know it. Yes, it's hard to quit. It's hard to do a lot of things. It was hard when I lost weight several years ago (food is every bit as addicting as cigarettes, btw), but I did it anyway and I'm much better off for it. But if you absolutely can't quit, that's your call. Just figure out a way to smoke where I don't have to inhale it too.
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Waiting........ 3.....2.....1...... your answer will prove beyond doubt this debate is solely about power over others and not, not smoking
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I don't think it did, and I don't think my stance is particularly hardline. I'm not trying to outlaw cigarettes (although it is illogical that cigarettes which hurt more than just the smoker are legal while cocaine which hurts only the snorter is illegal). If you want to kill yourself slowly with cigarettes, that's a shame, but it's your lookout. My objection is when you try to take me with you. Smoke all you want, I don't care. Don't do it around me.