[QUOTE=shakran]No one is forcing smokers to go into these bars and restaurants instead of staying outside to finish their cigarette first.
The bar it self is a smoking establishment. You don't have to go there. It has nothing to do with the smokers inside.
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This has already been addressed several times in this thread. Read it very carefully. Employees of the smoking establishments do not have a choice. They are being harmed.
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They don't have to work there. Working there is a choice. Just like you don't have to work at a coal mine and get black lung.
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Fine. But if the gays start going into every other establishment and lighting up their cigarettes, I'll be the first in line to complain. About the smoking.
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If you complained that a smoker smoked where the owner of the property said he can not then I would have no problem with complaint. Anyway what I said was a like comparision.
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Well there's an outlandish claim that's just BEGGING for a citation of source. hint: If it's from a tobacco industry-funded paper, it's bullshit.
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I don't have a source.It's speaking from personal experience. Next time you walk through a cloud of cigarette smoke then hack up blood. Take a picture and let us all know I'm wrong.
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Please stop whining about having to go 20 whole minutes without lighting up.
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I don't smoke so I don't/can't whine about it.
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You're right. That's why I don't suck on the exhaust pipe, and it's why anyone who tries to make me suck on the exhaust pipe should be arrested. By the same token, I don't want to be sucking on your cigarette.
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Ah but you are forced to breathe the exaust just as you are forced to breathe second hand smoke and once again I don't smoke.
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well this is a SMOKING thread, not a vehicle emissions thread. We're not complaining about the number of rapes nationwide or global warming or STD's either. See, we're trying to stay on topic here.
BTW us "whiny hypochondriacs" (that's how you spell those two words BTW) are not whiny, nor are we hypochondriacs. I strongly suspect you don't know what hypochondriac means.
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Once again a like comparision. Your not being forced in the same way to get raped or get STD's as you are being forced with emissions. You are being forced to breathe those emmisions just are you are forced to breathe smoke or deal with global warming. People should stop driving cars if we're going to be so health concious. Anti smokers are focusing on a small and feeble issue. Hey and I'll remember that for grammar class thanks bud.
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We're not whining. Please stop trolling with your idiotic accusations. We're registering a legitimate complaint. If you or someone else wants to smoke, that's fine, as long as they don't do it around those of us who don't want to smoke.
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No you are whining. Definition of whining is a feeble, peevish complaint. You already admitted you were complaining and I see your complaining as peevish and like I said before feeble. So you can stop trolling with your idiotic accusaions.
It's fine if you don't smoke as long as you don't go around smokers you should be fine.
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Please tell me where in the constitution it says you have a right to smoke. Tell me where in the constitution it says you have the right to harm my health so you can get a nic fix.
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Where in the constitution does it say you have a right not to breathe second hand smoke.
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There is not nor was there ever a "right of personal choice." If there were, suicide would not be illegal.
And even the Personal Choice party, which claims that there should be a right to personal choice, qualifies it with "as long as it doesn't hurt other people" so even under their umbrella smoking around nonsmokers would be out.
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I don't think smokers should be able to smoke in non smoking places. Non smokers should not tell smokers in smoking places what to do.