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Old 11-05-2006, 08:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Who's to blame for Pastor Haggard's fall from grace? His fat, lazy wife

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-...r_b_33279.html

I remember that some time ago, someone posted about a guy who was going to make public that a prominent man was gay if he didn't come out in some time frame. The motivation for such thing: that this "in the closet man", was publicly opposing to gay marriage and condemning gay relationships.
Now we all know who this guy was, Ted Haggard, one of the 25 most influential Evangelicals in the US and with more power in Washington.
Anyway, this thread is not to judge Haggard's fell down or the male prostitute's actions, but to find who's blame is it that Haggard turned out to be gay and drug addict.
In the story i linked, another Prominent Pastor seems to see some responsability in Haggard's wife and the fact that she is, in few words, lazy and unatractive.
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Most pastors I know do not have satisfying, free, sexual conversations and liberties with their wives. At the risk of being even more widely despised than I currently am, I will lean over the plate and take one for the team on this. It is not uncommon to meet pastors' wives who really let themselves go; they sometimes feel that because their husband is a pastor, he is therefore trapped into fidelity, which gives them cause for laziness. A wife who lets herself go and is not sexually available to her husband in the ways that the Song of Songs is so frank about is not responsible for her husband's sin, but she may not be helping him either.
This does in fact strike me. One should expect that people with the "moral standards" that these pastors preach to others and let everybody beleive they have, would place responsability where it belongs: Haggard himself. The fact that her wife may be lazy and unattractive does not justifies that he is out having gay sex and doing drugs, if this were like that, as the author notes, a third of all middle age married couples, would be doing drugs and having gay sex.

Bottom line, once again, i think this is the now more often typical case of not taking responsability for own actions and the stupid necessity of everybody to find responsability (through seudo-psycology) for someone's mistakes in third person's actions. "The guy killed 4 in a convenience store assault".- it's not his fault, is society's fault for not giving him enough opportunities. "The dude raped 5 women and molested chilren".- you should understand that it's not his fault, he was raped by his uncle when he was 7.

It's not hard to understand that generalized attitude, when the supposed moral pilars of society do the exact same thing, at least he didn't said that the "devil" made him do it.
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