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Originally Posted by willravel
If you sell a gun illegally, you have knowledge that it's in the hands of someone who shouldn't have a gun.
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How should I know this?
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Originally Posted by willravel
This isn't like selling a car. This is a gun, a weapon built to do harm and kill, as it's primary purpose.
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Do you realize I can sell someone a car, even if they don't have a license to drive? It shouldn't matter what the purpose is, because if we make that a part of congressional power, they could regulate your power to have a garage sale.
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Originally Posted by willravel
That's just silly. Youre' silly. The reason I want guns off the street is so that gun violence will go down. I don't ever want to read another story about how a kid finds his father's gun and accedentally shoots himself. I don't want to hear about shootouts in Oakland, or even around the corner from my house. I'm sick of people glorifying guns as some sort of shield against bad guys. It's absurd.
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So, like Australia or europe, gun deaths will go down, but other crimes can go up? If a 3 year old kills himself with a gun, is that my fault, the countries fault, or the parents fault?
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Originally Posted by willravel
The bad guys wouldn't have power if it weren't for guns.
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Will, you couldn't be any more wrong than you are with this sentence. If there were no guns, bad guys would have blades. If there were no blades, bad guys would have clubs, or other weapons. Bad guys will seek every advantage over decent folk. guns are not the issue.
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Originally Posted by willravel
They have enough snipers to cover every government building in the US? I doubt it. Also, snipers have a lot of trouble with suicide bombers becuase they look just like everyone else until they explode. If you're seriously considering the mecahnics of defending the populace from the government, keep it real. Look at Iraq. They are running as succesful a campaign as Korea.
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which should prove that any government military can be beaten, or held in check, by a well armed populace.
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Originally Posted by shakran
Absolutely correct! And while we're at it, you will NEVER stop people from speeding so let's get rid of those laws. You will NEVER stop people from raping, so let's get rid of those laws too! Hell all laws are broken - otherwise we wouldn't need the damn law in the first place - so let's just dissolve the country into a state of anarchy since it's pointless to have a law if people are just gonna go break it, right?
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what a complete load of crap, but I shouldn't expect any different from a member of the media. SOME laws were put in place to let people know you are not supposed to violate individual rights of people. If you do, this is what will happen. Where did we go when we moved from regulation actions to regulating thoughts of crimes and the tools that are used in crimes?
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Originally Posted by shakran
Maybe I won't be able to keep all the really bad guys from getting their hands on guns. But I might prevent the good guy who happens to be an idiot from getting one and shooting the wrong guy. I might be able to prevent the sorta bad guy . .the 14 year old who thinks gangbangers are cool maybe. . from getting a gun and turning INTO a really bad guy.
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In other words, you can't do squat against any of the real crime, so lets make feel good laws that only affect the ones that want to be law abiding. Maybe the generally stupid people will think that we're doing the right thing. Another bunch of crap that does NOTHING to address the real issue. Let's just smother it the best way we can so the idiots in this country will think we're doing the right thing. Makes me want to puke.