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Old 11-04-2006, 05:27 PM   #31 (permalink)
Willravel
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we have a choice. do we imprison people, do we execute people, or do we just ignore the crime?
We bring the guilty to justice. Again, I'm obviously not suggesting we ignore a crime.
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so charge someone with a crime they had no knowledge of, nor participation in? where is the sense in that?
If you sell a gun illegally, you have knowledge that it's in the hands of someone who shouldn't have a gun. Consider North Korea. We're all worried that they'll sell nukes to terrorist organizations. Should they not be heald responsible for the nuclear weapons they sell to terrorists?
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If the government can prove a case of a lone individual supplying guns to felons, then by all means, do so. But if I sell a single gun to a single individual, why should I have to do the background check on someone that should still be in prison? Why should I be charged with being an accessory to a crime I was nowhere near? Should you be charged with aiding and abetting a felon because you know someone who smokes pot, but didn't say anything, and he got caught with an amount to be charged with distribution?
This isn't like selling a car. This is a gun, a weapon built to do harm and kill, as it's primary purpose. If you sell it to someone who doesn't have a license, you should be heald accountable, as you will have supplied the weapon of a criminal. Do pot suppliers get in trouble if caught? Shit yes. The same should be true of illegal gun dealers.
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Should we put willravel in charge of who gets rights and who doesn't? Should you be the overseer of who gets to drive and who doesn't? Should you only give rights to people that YOU trust? Face it will, the reason you want people disarmed and guns off the streets is because you don't want to have a gun yourself. If you feel you are incapable of dealing with gun ownership, you want everyone on the same footing as you. Nobody should have a gun because will doesn't like them.
That's just silly. Youre' silly. The reason I want guns off the street is so that gun violence will go down. I don't ever want to read another story about how a kid finds his father's gun and accedentally shoots himself. I don't want to hear about shootouts in Oakland, or even around the corner from my house. I'm sick of people glorifying guns as some sort of shield against bad guys. It's absurd. The bad guys wouldn't have power if it weren't for guns. Can you imagine the power of drive by knifings? How dangerous would gangs be with judt sharp objects or sling shots? A simple taser or pepper spray would keep them at bay without any difficulty.
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good snipers are the most lethal tool in any combat situation. I have that on good authority. (USMC 84-80)
They have enough snipers to cover every government building in the US? I doubt it. Also, snipers have a lot of trouble with suicide bombers becuase they look just like everyone else until they explode. If you're seriously considering the mecahnics of defending the populace from the government, keep it real. Look at Iraq. They are running as succesful a campaign as Korea.
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