Originally Posted by roachboy

this sets up the possibility of a regress of frames. what enables evaluation past a certain obvious point is the openness of particular ways of thinking about being-in-the-world to recursive operations. recursion/reflexivity becomes the only way of generating evaluations of the frame within which you operate, of making arguments about it, of making judgments about its effects--there IS NO OBJECTIVITY, there are only frames of ideological reference that let you do some operations while excluding others.

this is important because the cognition is largely social and that means that this problem of one's imbrication in ideological frames of reference does not stop. you see this problem all over in scientific ideologies, and in pseudo-philosophies that lean on them more often than not in wholly naive ways. this bring sme back around to the atlan book i referenced in post 19 or something, which outlines this issue by looking at the problematic fit between types of scientific inquiry--for example that of molecular biology with that of what he refers to as macro-molecular biology--the problem is that of integrating scales of analysis--the underlying problem is created by epistemological assumptions---which scientific inquiry is shot through with, as are all other forms of human thinking.