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Originally Posted by DaElf
The purpose of sex and attraction is procreation, pleasure is secondary.
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This depends on the couple. For those using birth control, the purpose is pleasure, and sometimes for creating or enhancing the emotional connection between the two.
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That being said if homosexuals are not making a choice it means they are geneticly retarded.
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Retarded. Well done. I've been called defective, abnormal, deviant, compared to pedophiles and bestiality, but this is the first time I've been called retarded.
I'll bet I'm the first retarded person in history to get a Ph.D. from UCLA. I'm going to contact them and see if I can get a plaque commemorating my achievement.
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When it comes to religion the people of sodom were banging on the door with a perverted heart and wanted to 'know' the two angels in the ass.
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Wow. What translation have you been reading? That's worded somewhat differently from my New Revised Standard Translation. By the way, that's not an indictment of homosexuality, it's an indictment of rape and inhospitality.
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I think in Kings or Corinthians it says something about a man should not lay with another man as they would lay with a woman.
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Leviticus 18:22.
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These things are starting to be disputed by experts saying that the homosexuality of sodom was not the reason it was destroyed. Experts also said that who ever was ruling when the 'a man shall not lay with a man etc' was said said it for health purposes. So homosexuality is ok in the bible according to some.
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I would be one of those.
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Maybe it is good for our population control and maybe to some it is not the reason for gods wrath.
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The thing with population control is that that's a linked trait, and not a direct result. The biggest stressors on animals are overpopulation and a lack of food, situations that are improved by lowering the population. Thus, it's possible that mammals at some time in the past evolved a control mechanism in which stress hormones produced during gestation will make some of the male offspring homosexual, reducing the population in the next generation. The proximate cause would thus be the stress hormones, not the overpopulation, and anything causing the production of these stress hormones would thus produce the same result. Thus, global population really is no longer relevant. It's the hormone response that matters, and there are many more conditions in modern human life that can produced similar stresses in pregnant mothers so that what probably evolved as a control mechanism for local population density is now a reaction to other stimuli. So we still have a case of B->C, but there are other causes, X, Y, Z, that can lead to C.
In short, homosexuality may have evolved as a population control mechanism, but is now likely a reaction to other things producing the same stress reactions in pregnant females.
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To me it still feels wrong. To me a man kissing a man or a woman kissing a woman is like watching any person kiss an animal in a way that makes me feel like I'm watching my parents have sex. Which I'm sure I could get used to it but really I don't want to. It may be your choice it may not but I wish people would just keep it private. I don't believe I have ever met a gay person and not known it within the first forty minutes. Becuase of that I will have to vote for choice.
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So long as they keep it within reasonable limits, I really don't mind seeing a man and woman kiss. I also have no problem with people giving an animal a kiss, or the animal equivilent, licking one's face.