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Originally Posted by pan6467
It's that attitude right there that is starting to be seen coming from the GOP and will get them kicked out of power.
Because in all honesty, if you are telling me that working 40 hours a week I still shouldn't be able to earn a living and should bow down to the employer that makes more in 1 day than I do a year...... I'm willing to go do all I can to go socialistic and that would include organizing revolt and speaking out.
If a man works 40 hours and puts in a decent honest days work, NO ONE should ask for more and he should be rewarded with a decent honest wage. If not then there is no sense working 40 hours, showing any kind of company loyalty or caring about the quality of work. Because if a company is as egotistical as you state then they don't give a damn about the worker so why should the worker give a damn about the company?
Lennon said it best:
A million workers working for nothing
You better give 'em what they really own
We got to put you down
When we come into town
Singing power to the people
JOHN LENNON (1940-1980)
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We're coming at this from 2 different perspectives. You think that corporations exist in order to provide a wage and benes for a worker. I think that they exist in order to turn a profit for its owners and shareholders. That is an enormous gulf between our two ways of thinking. People who work 40 hours and dont have the door hit them in the ass at 5PM sharp dont deserve anything any sympathy from their employers. Those people tend to take more than give to a corporation and deserve nothing but contempt, not empathy, for demanding more $$$, benes, or whatever.
And oh, I'd be careful living by the socialistic words of a dead multimillionaire artist. Something about the hypocrisy just reeks up the board
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Originally Posted by willravel
The worker earns his or her keep every day that the company doesn't go bankrupt. The worker holds the upper managment on his or her back. Upper managment doesn't talk to pissed off customers or do heavy lifting. Any success that the company has is a direct result of the grunts. You know what the scary thing is? I'm upper, upper managment. I'm right under the CEO of a very succesful company. The reason I got to and kept my position is that I understand that a company only works as well as it's weakest or least compensated employee. If you aren't payed enough or are dumped on by idiot bosses, you'll onyl work just hard enough not to get fired (I learned that from Office Space, a prolific movie). If you're compensated and treated fairly, you're more likely to spend your time doing your work instead of griping and being pissed.
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Will, your idealism is very touching, but I think it has more to do with your youth. Not sure what kind of company has a 23 yo as an "upper, upper management" employee, but one day you will learn that no matter how well you pay and treat an employee, they are still not invested into your company. When you deal with good size number of employees, you will have 1, 2, or 3 that will but into you and the company's vision, but the rest will just shit on you when they get the chance. Stick around the business world a while and you'll see what I mean