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Thank you Ace. You explained your position better, I may not agree with it, but you made good counterpoints to mine and from there people can see the differences. Trust me as hard as some of it is to swallow, you do have some truth in there.
That was a debate, something we lack here on TFP. I stated my case, you countered and now the people decide at the ballot box by finding people who represent what we just said.
(Personally, I would hope to think given what you have said and what I have said, there could be a middle ground for compromise in there.)
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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"
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