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Originally Posted by florida0214
This is an argument that will never end so i will simply put my opinion out there and stand back while it gets bashed and grug through the mud....Somebody said in here that marriage is not religious issue but a civil issue. That may be the case when it comes to taxes and property and such things, but there are quite a few people out there who would argue that their marriage means more to them then being abel to file joint taxes. It is a big deal and...
Homosexual marriage scares people. It scares me. Wy should something so beautiful be taken and IMO Drug through the mud and be made to seem so dirty. Marriage was intended to be between a man and a women. Why else has it not become an issue until now.
If it was ever intended to be between two homsexuals, then there would have been an amendment or a clause or something in there...
The fact of the matter is that not every man was created equal. It simply cannot and will never be. There are certain right that Americans think they have, that they do not.
Some people have more rights then others. Some people have more privelage then others. Don't believe me. When have you ever seen a white kid get help from the NAACP. Lets face it America is run on the Golden rule. He who has the most gold makes all the rules....It makes me wonder if the Federal government does not recognoze the union and it is only recognized by the state what benefits do you really get out of it. Maybe Peace of mind knowing that you went against the grain and fought the good fight.
That makes little if any sense to me. Why fight to fight. it proves nothing except that there is always a loser and it is never fun to be a loser.
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Florida, a dislike and a sense of fear associated with gay marriage, while I don't really fully understand, is perfectly fine, in my opinion. I don't think anyone is thinking that you have to like it. You know? The idea of two dudes getting it on is kind of unappealing to me, on a direct personal level. But I don't think there's anything wrong with two gay guys getting it on, and in the abstract I realize it's just a beautiful thing as a guy and girl. When it comes down down to it, the idea of anyone I know getting it on is kind of icky to me, and I don't think I'd like to see all my personal ridiculous facial contortions and awkward movement, etc.
You commentary on the NAACP has nothing to do with the laws of our country, and I bet you could found the NAAWP if you wanted to. Assuming the NAAWP wasn't overtly racist, I guarantee you its legal, because the Klan is still around - and they are definately racist.
I agree that money talks, but I don't think that's germane to this discussion. There are some awfully rich gay people around.
I'd also guess that gays would fight for legal recognition of their marriages on the state level because it's a step in the inevitable process of national legalization.
I also agree that we don't have many rights, as American citizens, that we think we do and should have. I see that as a problem. I'm comfortable with people having more rights, pretty much all the time, unless there is a very good reason to curtail them. Perhaps you are not. That's a different discussion. But I don't think that its germane to this discussion.
I am curious as what is it about gay marriage that scares you, and why do you feel it drags your marriage through the mud? I'm not married, but if I do get married, I can't see how anyone else relationship will affect the importance of my own. All the meaning of that relationship comes from the couple involved and what they put into it, as far as I understand.
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Originally Posted by Gilda, in response to the bit about gay people and babymaking
Not offspring that are biologically related to both parents, no.
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In a slightly different wrinkle, it occurs to me that this isn't actually true. What's the feeling on using genetic material from a male who is related to the non-getting-pregnant member of a lesbian couple, or a related female to carry the child for a gay male couple? I'd think it might be rather common, and then you do sort of the genetics of both parents involved.
I sort of wish I had a lesbian sister, and then she used my sperm to impregnate her wife. I could then brag that I'd knocked up my sister's wife. That would be so Alabama Man.