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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I never said this, but since you brought it up...
Gay marriage would cause the divorce rate per year to increase by a sizeable margin. That is, of course, unless divorce would only be limited to heterosexuals.
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Nope. Even if every same sex couple were divorced, it would have a negligible effect on the divorce rate, and there is no evidence that same-sex couples would divorce at a higher rate than heterosexuals.
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There is no such thing as equal rights for all. Since when has it become wrong to limit the civil rights of individuals?
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It's always been wrong to do so on the basis of prejudice. It's been unconstitutional since 1868:
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Originally Posted by United States Constitution, 14th amendment
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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Originally Posted by Infinite Loser
Since someone decided that gay marriage shouldn't be prohibited? It amazes me how people can completely ignore the fact that there are literally thousands of "Civil rights" which are prohibited to certain peoples, and a good majority of them are more important than whether or not gays are allowed to marry.
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Yet, you find this one important enough to argue that millions of Americans should be denied it.
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The underlying premise of marriage is to produce offspring and to provide a stable environment in which to raise them.
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This is one of many, many purposes. The bolded part logically favors same-sex marriage.
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Heterosexuals can produce offspring while homosexuals can't.
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This is factually wrong. Homosexuals often can and do reproduce. My wife (who is homosexual, by the way)will likely be doing so next year sometime if we're ever successful at the artificial insemination.
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While not all heterosexuals produce offspring in a marriage, many of them do.
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The same is true of homosexuals.
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No homosexual can produce offspring.
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You keep repeating this as if it will make it true. It still remains untrue.
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Therefore, from a purely biological standpoint, there is no reason for two homosexuals to try to "mate" as they can't.
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It's fun to try, though. I would point out, though, that we're talking a civil contract, not biology.
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Two homosexuals will NEVER produce offspring.
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Not offspring that are biologically related to both parents, no. This is true of many heterosexual couples as well.
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Since two homosexuals can't mate and produce children, they shouldn't be allowed to marry. Though, I wouldn't be opposed to giving homosexuals the right to marry while withholding the child-producing benefits from them.
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By doing so you would be denying the children being raised by same-sex couples many benefits.
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By the way... The number of marriages which don't produce children are few and far between (I just thought you'd like to know) when compared the number of them that do.
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The number of same sex marriages would be few and far between compared to the number of heterosexual marriages. Many of them do produce children.
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I bolded the pertinent part. I'm sick and tired of the "All people must be treated equally under the United States Constitution!" argument, because that's a load of BS.
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Originally Posted by United States Constitution, 14th amendment
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
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You live in a country where people are denied basic rights-- Constitutionally, I might add-- Based on age, national origin, race, mental capacity, etc; Inequalities which, by the way, the majority of people live with and accept. But none of that matters. No! Let's instead claim that all groups are treated equally, save homosexuals.
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No one is claiming that all groups
are treated equally, just that all adults
should be treated equally under the law as guaranteed in the Constitution.