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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
Yet, it is true. You're not being treated as unequals.
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No matter how many times you repeat this, it doesn't become true. You've been arguing that discriminating against homosexuals is justified this whole thread.
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I laugh when people try to compare homosexuals not being allowed to marry to such things as the abolishment of slavery, women's suffrage or even the civil right's movement.
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This is, literally, a civil rights issue.
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And unlike minorities before the civil right's movement
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Let's compare this to minorities and marriage rights. I can't have my marriage legally recognized, and the Lovings, and a great many interracial couples like them, couldn't have theirs recognized either.
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you're not forced into government sanctioned isolation nor are you subject to public humiliation.
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You're kidding, right?
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In fact, you enjoy many protections which the latter groups simply did not have, yet you would rather scream discrimination because you're not allowed to marry?
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I'm funny that way. Being treated equally in some ways isn't enough. I'd like to have
all the same rights, privileges, and legal protections as everyone else, not just some of them.
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The fact is that you're trying to force others to accept your definition of marriage; The exact same thing you accuse those people who are anti-gay of doing.
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Nope. I don't want to make marriage solely between gay people and prevent heterosexuals from marrying. I want an even playing field where you can act on your definition and I can act on mine and neither of us dictating to the other what she should be allowed to do.
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That's the fundamental difference between any movement of the past and the homosexual movement-- The desire to make people accept the way you choose to live your life.
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Well of course. Blacks fought to be accepted as equal to whites, women fought to be accepted as equal to men. A desire for acceptance isn't new, it's been a part of every human and civil rights movement in history.
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See? You feel it's okay to discriminate against people based on age.
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Well, I believe I said that those are separate issues, but sure I accept that legal restrictions on minors are reasonable as a means of preventing them from engaging in dangerous behavior until they reach the age of maturity at which they can handle those issues is reasonable. I don't think anybody is going to say that drawing a line somewhere is unreasonable, even if we might disagree on where to draw that line.
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Therefore, it perplexes me as to how you can think it unfair to discriminate against people based on sexual orientation. Just as you think there's a good reason to discriminate based on age I think there's a good reason to discriminate based on sexual orientation. Seems fair, huh?
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One is based on practical considerations and the other on prejudice.