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Old 10-30-2006, 04:07 PM   #245 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by NCB
You argue that people are imposing their beliefs on others, yet you seemingly have no quams with the school system to have "open dialogue" about a sexual preference practiced by a small % of genpop and that goes against many parents morals and values. Most people would call that hypocritical, but I assume that you and other liberals would call it something else.
Teach morals at home. Teach facts at school.

I'm not even sure what you're worried about. Homosexuals exist. Homosexuality exists. Homosexual sex exists, as do all of the heterosexual counterparts. The school isn't telling them about some secret that no one knows about. Nor are they advocating that everyone go try having gay sex with their classmates. If the school does anything, it's a variation of, "Sex can be dangerous. This is how you can protect yourself." They are being exposed to information, which is the whole point of going to school. You learn things and hopefully remember them and make decisions about them. "Imposing beliefs" is when you force someone to or prevent someone from expressing an opinion without regard for how they feel about it. Exposing someone to information is entirely different, and is done in a value neutral context. Schools don't tell people that sex is good or bad or that homosexual sex is good or bad. They tell kids that it EXISTS and if they CHOOSE to do it, it has consequences. It is the responsibility of the PARENT to provide the moral framework for the child to interpret these facts.

Saying that schools shouldn't teach comprehensive sex ed programs because some parents dislike parts of it is as stupid as saying schools shouldn't teach the Napoleon Wars because some parents disagree with why they occurred. That's not the point of a school, it's not the point of a curriculum.

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Originally Posted by NCB
By its very exisitence. Marriage is made primarily for raising children. Homosexual "marriage" can never do such except via extrodainary measures. Its really that simple
Please re-read my post 234. Then read what I've quoted.

You CANNOT make the argument you just made without denying lots of straight people the right to get married as well. If you're comfortable with that, fine. If you're not, then that's not really the argument you're making.

As an addendum, marriage was primarily created to transfer property, not for raising children. Marriage now has almost nothing to do with raising children. See: divorce with children, childless marriages, single parenting. You're making an anachronistic argument about an institution that really was only ever true in theory to begin with. Stop making it.

Last edited by Frosstbyte; 10-30-2006 at 04:13 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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