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Originally Posted by Gilda
I meant that I see same-sex marriage and inclusion of homosexuality as part of a comprehensive sex education program as separate issues, though I am in favor of both.
I do agree that, other than vaginal intercourse, sex acts and the precautions needed to engage in them more safely are applicable to both heterosexual and homosexual contact.
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I think we had different sex-ed classes in high school, or my memories even dodgier than I originally thought...totally possible. I think what you're describing would be something of a combination between what we had in sexual education (which wasn't really sociological interaction of either hetero or homo, but only biological "here's the penis, here's the vagina, are you all squirming?") and sort of a civics type class. Either way, I can't see the harm in teaching the reality of our society, which is apparently that there are some gay people around. Who knew?
As to the homosexuality as
population control discussion - oooh burn, lock the door on your way out crap...if one of the principal arguments in favor of denying homosexuals the right to marry is that they can't directly, biologically reproduce, while heterosexual couples can directly, biologically reproduce
and it is a fact that the world's population is increasing (as is the United States population, our percentage of the world's population is decreasing, because that's how exponential relationships work), then under these caveats homosexuality would seem at the least to be a nil on the population argument, and quite possibly a bonus. This is an argument which is structured within the assumption used by critics of gay marriage; otherwise, the entire argument falls apart.
As has been pointed out, there are numerous other ways for people, both the not-gay and the gay, to go about becoming parents. In these scenarios, all blanket statement sort of fall apart - but that's because its closer to reality.
That entire line of reasoning is off the point. As has been said before, these are real 3-D people and this special rights crap is obviously not logically valid. Why can't people drink before they're 21? Beats the crap out of me. Reactionary blue law horseshit? But the idea is you need some training wheel time before you start drinking. I don't think there are really training wheels for sexual orientation. For sexual practices, there
are. That's why we can't fuck children. They're off limits....theoretically, even to
each other. You can't fuck before you're 15.
Why can't I vote? What the fuck does that even mean? I don't know. Maybe you're Austrian. Maybe you're in prison. Maybe you've been assigned supersecret top special mission to pee in Hugo Chavez's lemonade. You mean, why can't I vote before 18? See above.
Why can't I while can? You are completely on your own there. It's worked so far for me, so I'm going with the training wheel thing, but that's a big time guess.