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Ustwo · 10-25-2006, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Dunedan

OK, so lemme get this straight.

Legalizing cannabis and taxing it, which would apparently bring the price to around $100/oz, is going to generate a black market and cause a problem. That's your arguement, right Ustwo?

But the current illegal status, which gives cannabis a value of $300/oz ( frequently even more ) hasn't generated a black market and caused problems?

What are you smoking, and where can I buy some? You do realize that even -with- taxation, grass would be a minimum of 50% cheaper than it is now, probably much more than that...how is this supposed to cause a black market when one of the immidiate results of legalization would be a precipitous drop in prices? If I can buy an ounce of White Widow for $150, from a corner store, why would I skip that in order to pay $400 from a guy on the street?

As for not knowing any pot-smoking Dentists; I'm not surprised. From the sound of your posts, you'd have no idea what to look for. A lot more of your co-workers smoke than will admit it, although most medical types go in for either opiates or blow. Although frankly, my own guess is that they simply didn't tell you they were smoking, because it took them all of 5 seconds to figure out you would call the cops.

I've used cannabis for almost two years to suppress debilitating migraines. The list of known, theraputic uses for this stuff is as long as my arm; Migraines, cluster-headaches, MS, Fiber Myalgia, Glaucoma, athsma ( in vaporized form ), insomnia, nausea, etc etc etc.

In the Czech Republic, where I now live, cannabis use is semi-legal and -very- widespread. 30% of the population report using it at least once per month. Oddly enough, I can't seem to find any stories of stoned doctors killing people, or stoned drivers causing huge pileups...loads of alchohol-related shit, though. Funny thing, that. Oddly enough, the Czechs also have a very deep-seated hatered for informants...so guess who Czech cops spend their time chasing? Murderers, thieves, rapists...you know, actual criminals, rather than people who ingest the medically-harmless flowers of a highly prolific weed.

Yes, some people can't handle cannabis. But these are people who have a hard time handling a "STOP" sign; if you're dumb before you spark up, you're gonna be dumb afterwards. Yes, some people let pot control their lives. Some people also let the NFL, stock-market, or Beanie-babies control their lives. Should we now ban sports, stock trading, and stuffed animals?

And here's the bottom line; what buisiness is it of yours, the Govt's, or ANYones, what someone puts into their own body? Where do you get off saying you own people? Where did you get this idea that someone else was your property, to dictate to as needed, regarding the intimate details of their lives?

It's about self-ownership, people.

Eh the tax is a side line, but as it gets decriminalized, it will be cheaper to grow/sell on the black market as well. Anything overtaxed gets a black-market if there is a way to produce it without the tax. Its 300 an Oz because that’s what people will pay for it, but if people are forced to pay $100 and oz by the government but can get it for $50 from John down the street, you now have a black market.

Medicinal marijuana use isn't the question here either, nor are the majority of those who use pot doing for medical reasons.

That leaves my 'losers' comment and I still stand by it, and I don't really care what % of Czech's smoke it. What I see in marijuana users is a lack of ambition, a 'what me worry?' attitude, and if that’s what they want fine, because the world does need ditch diggers and their other forms of employment equivalent.