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Old 10-25-2006, 07:56 AM   #37 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by dc_dux
Perhaps you can explain how the bill that both the House and Senate passed and Bush vetoed contitutionally protects cloning.

(1) The stem cells were derived from human embryos that have been donated from in vitro fertilization clinics, were created for the purposes of fertility treatment, and were in excess of the clinical need of the individuals seeking such treatment.


These stem cells are pretty much worthless for any disease research, its basically nothing beyond an egg. They are totally non-differentiated, and there isn't much we can do with them except let them differentiate, aka develop. This is very useful for the study of cloning (an identical twin is a natural clone) but won't make M.J. Fox stop shaking.

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Originally Posted by hiredgun
UsTwo: Of course a cure isn't a sure thing, but no research ever is. The point is that there's a possibility, and that possibility is too valuable not to be pursued. If the lives of our adult, fully human soldiers are worth the possibility of whatever we think we're achieving in Iraq, is the use of a few dead fetuses not an acceptable price for the possibility to preserve life by fighting disease?


That comparison is a weee bit of a stretch. The obvious counter argument is that the fetuses didn't volunteer to be killed.
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