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Frankly, the crux of this thread is the big bugaboo of "FEMINISM". I can't imagine that *anyone* here would argue against the concept of equal opportunity and equal rights. The problem is that Feminism is a political football that has been abused by all sides of the debate (like most political footballs).
There is anger and resentment still lingering in the Feminism debate on all sides.
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I agree...at some point in time, Feminism no longer was about equality; militant thinking came in with a 'I can open my own car door' mentality and shouting 'male chauvinist pig' and men backed off....
Supple Cow: You weren't even a thought when the Feminist movement started, but you come off as extremely militant as I mentioned above. How you can possibly equate reading romance novels with 'keeping women down' is a mystery to me. Some of us actually embrace our womanhood, with all its strengths and weaknesses, and we realize quite fully we are
not second class to anyone. Should we be out perfecting GTA just to prove a point? No more then men should take up sewing to do so....
Toaster: There's a reason women's salaries don't match and the reason is the same as the total hours mismatch: We are still the main caregivers of family, the ones who actually have the kids in that family and therefore are staying home to recover and, in the majority of single-parent homes, we're that single parent. Until all that evens out( and since men can't give birth, it won't), then pay will never be totally equal.
Chivalry as it pertains to the days and legends of King Arthur are indeed, gone. But there are way too many men here who seem to think that a simple act of courtesy is chivalrous and either therefore
won't do it or do it with the thought that women are, in fact, deserving of it, much the same way a child needs his meat cut. Both lines of thought are off the mark. Better to do something because it's the right and respectful thing to do, regardless of gender, age or ability.