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stevie667 · 10-23-2006, 01:56 PM

Well, i'm reading this thread in one window and typing this in another, everyones making such good points, but i'm gona be up all night reading and won't be arsed to respond when i'm finished.

To me chivalry is a difficult issue, common courtesy is a large part that seems to be thrown around and discarded.

Some aspects of 'chivalry' are starting to die for me, such as a man paying for a meal. On small things such as drinks e.t.c i will do this, but simple economics comes into factor with meals, because i'm usually broke. Other things to me depend on the situation. Going out for an evening (e.g. into town, theatre, meal e.t.c) requires holding doors, pulling out chairs (assuming the bloody waiters don't get there first), taking a hand when walking, simply because that is the way i was brought up. From where i'm standing that is what you do on a proper night out. Its a bit like going to see the queen, you damned sure don't go in anything but tails. You want to tell me not to do that, fine, i'm not gonna listen.

Simple nights out don't need that type of fuss, a trip to the cinema is a world away from les miserables, and doesn't warrant the same response.

I don't do it because i consider the female sex to be weaker or anything like that, i do it because it is my right and privilege to as an Englishman and a Gentleman. My father and grandfather taught it to me, i will teach it to my son and grandson. Now, of course, i will also teach them not to go out of their way for any old person woman mind you, so yeh, it does relate back to sex, but so does most of the rest of human behaviour. As for pandering to every beck and call of any woman who cries help, thats called being a tool.

Giving up a seat on the bus, holding doors, helping frail people around, thats all common courtesy and should be practised without thought.

I'm sure i've missed a few points, so lets see what the reponse to this is, and whether i'm on track or not.

10-23-2006, 01:56 PM	#95 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	Well, i'm reading this thread in one window and typing this in another, everyones making such good points, but i'm gona be up all night reading and won't be arsed to respond when i'm finished. To me chivalry is a difficult issue, common courtesy is a large part that seems to be thrown around and discarded. Some aspects of 'chivalry' are starting to die for me, such as a man paying for a meal. On small things such as drinks e.t.c i will do this, but simple economics comes into factor with meals, because i'm usually broke. Other things to me depend on the situation. Going out for an evening (e.g. into town, theatre, meal e.t.c) requires holding doors, pulling out chairs (assuming the bloody waiters don't get there first), taking a hand when walking, simply because that is the way i was brought up. From where i'm standing that is what you do on a proper night out. Its a bit like going to see the queen, you damned sure don't go in anything but tails. You want to tell me not to do that, fine, i'm not gonna listen. Simple nights out don't need that type of fuss, a trip to the cinema is a world away from les miserables, and doesn't warrant the same response. I don't do it because i consider the female sex to be weaker or anything like that, i do it because it is my right and privilege to as an Englishman and a Gentleman. My father and grandfather taught it to me, i will teach it to my son and grandson. Now, of course, i will also teach them not to go out of their way for any old person woman mind you, so yeh, it does relate back to sex, but so does most of the rest of human behaviour. As for pandering to every beck and call of any woman who cries help, thats called being a tool. Giving up a seat on the bus, holding doors, helping frail people around, thats all common courtesy and should be practised without thought. I'm sure i've missed a few points, so lets see what the reponse to this is, and whether i'm on track or not. __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.