This thread really makes me want to vomit. Did I wander into Stepford? Are you real, SugahBritches?
All I am reading here from the "ladies" defending "chivalry" is a bunch of aimless, self-contradictory rambling. The OP was about "chivalry" and there were two things that happened - people disagreed over whether the word 'chivalry' was appropriate for what the OP was referring to, and people disagreed over whether one should expect certain behaviors from others people based on sex. The disturbing thing that surfaced is that there apparently exists a cavalcade of women who don't live in reality and are prepared to do as much whining as necessary to try and drag everybody else into Fabioland.
Please for the love of reality STOP IT. This is extremely distasteful to me personally, and I have a feeling some other people who have posted in here would agree, but they are not as determined to march the march of bannination that this thread has driven me to. This makes me wish I had never posted in the Ladies Lounge and never defended its existence in personal discussions I've had with various moderators.
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Originally Posted by ShaniFaye
oh...and I will keep my bodice ripping, throbbing manhood books thank you very much...they are more entertaining than any shoot em up video game I've ever seen.
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This kind of thing is exactly what I think went wrong with the women's movement. This is what 'keeps us down'. The women's movement wasn't about claiming our right to be irrational, entitled creatures. Nobody has that right. For the sake of brevity, I'll leave out what I think about the implication that Fabio books are for girls and shooting games are for boys. Let me just take the statement and point out exactly what the problem is:
When people play video games and go on murderous rampages, they don't for a moment delude themselves into thinking this is real life, that they will ever do this or that they should ever hope to be able to do it outside of the video game. When women read novels that star Fabio and watch Sleepless in Seattle over and over again, they start to think they can go around acting like the world owes them something. And it's not just anything - it's a whole lot of ridiculous behavior that has no place in reality. Sure, that's kind of the definition of romance, and romance is peachy, but romance doesn't pay bills and romance doesn't raise the kids and romance sure has hell doesn't give you self respect or fulfillment all by itself.
Everytime I hear some woman complain about how hard it is to be a woman, I just wonder to myself if it really is as hard as she says it is or if maybe she's just expecting a little too much out of everyone and everything but herself. Most of the time it's the latter. The ones for whom life really is that hard don't usually have the time or resources to be watching You've Got Mail or reading about that swashbuckling Fabio.