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Old 10-21-2006, 06:15 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I was well aware of the dangers of a threadjack but I was hoping that we can miss this mark and simply go for a more reasoned look at the Macintosh computer, if they're still even called that...


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Originally Posted by willravel
Or....Explorer, whether it be for Windows or MacOSX is made by Microsoft, yes? The it would follow logic that if it were to perform better on a computer running Mac OSX or Windows XP, it'd run better - despite obviously not being the same program, as linux and DOS are completly different - on the Windows OS. If two computers, one a Mac and one a PC, with comparable clock speeds were to run the same system of tests on Explorer, which do you think would run faster?
I had to read this paragarph serveral times over before I understood what you are saying and I think I may still be misunderstanding you. Can you rephrase this, please?

Explorer is an MS Windows program. It is the desktop, task bar, and all the GUI file browsers. Is there a version of Explorer for Mac OS X that you are using? ...or, are you talking about Mac OS X's file browser, whatever it's called... Finder, maybe? It is written by Apple for OS X...

Either way, you are running two different programs on the two different platforms. Any difference in behaviour is much more likely to be attributable to the program, itself, rather than the underlying operating system...

It sounds like you might be saying that if a company were to write the same program (defined by intended behaviour, here) for two different platorms, it should run better on the "favoured" platform (that would be Windows for Microsoft and Mac OS X for Apple) and, if it doesn't, that's a failing of the platform and not the program. Is this right?

Again, I had a really hard time understanding this paragarph...

Lastly, if I were to judge by your use of the term, clock speeds don't mean as much as you think they mean. Either that, or you're using the term in an extremely colloquial manner. I'll have more to say about that, later...

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Is there a name for the computer version of a grammar nazi? I am well aware that the processor is measured in hertz, or in this case GHz, where as the RAM or HD would be measured in bytes, or in this case GB. It was a very, very simple mistake, a mistake even computer geniuses could make. Yeesh. While my mistakes lead you to belive that I don't know the first thing about computers, that simply isn't true. I know at least the first 3 things about computers, maybe 4. I belive that, based on estimate and not actual clock tests, the computer at work should be a lot faster than my computer at home.
I don't know. My anal retentive demeaner has worked so well for me in my career but it appears to be hampering me in this thread...

Like I said, it wasn't an attack. I was simply expressing a (harmless) opinion based on what I had read.

Clock speeds, in and of themselves, are no indicators of processing power. A 1 MHz machine can be more powerful than a 4 MHz machine. This was a huge problem for AMD (and, to a lesser extent, Apple), whose chips were more powerful than Intel's but ran at slower clock speeds...

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Home - eMac, second generation, 3+ years old (or 76 in computer years), 1GHz PowerPC G4 processor, 1GB of RAM, 80GB HD, with a 250GB external HD through firewire, and a graphics card (I'll have to go home and check to see which) that was put in aftermarket.

Work - Gateway GT4022, like 2 weeks old, 2.4 GHz AMD Athelon 64 processor, 2 GB RAM, 200GB HD, nVIDIA GeForce 6100 graphics card.

Which do you think should be faster? Without running tests, my comp at home should be a lot slower with comparable tasks than the Gateway at work.
I agree that your work computer should be the more powerful machine.

So, if you run a program on your work machine and run the "same" program on your home machine and find the program to run faster on your home machine, you'd blame the OS?

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//end threadjack....sorry JustJess
Well, to be fair, if anyone threadjacked, it was me. Sorry JustJess, I didn't think the discussion would go this far.

I'm looking forward to a rational conversation in the Mac vs. PC thread, if only Ch'i would say somethng meaningful...
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